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Hello...it's me. Haven't been here in a while. Well, to all those program survivors...It gets better once you repiece your life together again. It may take time but it is feasible. 4 years later and I am happy to report I live a normal life. It is merely a time in my past. I do not allow it to break me. I don't have nightmares. I only hope that the rest of you can find a return to normalcy. Please work hard to put this all behind you so it doesn't hinder your life now. I feel for you all. Some of us endured more difficult times than others. The conditioning is one method that is hard to break. The outside real world is so different. Good luck. :wink:

As I've said before I am a survivor. Not just the program but life itself. I didn't agree with all that went all in the program. What I ended up doing was using it to my advantage. It's along the lines of "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." I understand how people can see it all as abuse. I however didn't view it that way because I was determined to learn. In any situation good or bad something is available to be taught.
An extreme situation
In Nazi Germany the surviving Jews talk about how they kept themselves free. That freedom was inner freedom. They had the worst of surroundings. Yet they were determined to survive. They could have easily given in and allowed themselves to be shot. There were those who did fight till the end (being murdered). They came out with a better appreciation for life then any of us will ever know. They kept their minds free.
I believe in inner freedom. I have been through a lot of things in my life. I have seen and experienced more than most of you will ever go through. I choose not to let it all defeat me. I have become stronger thanks to those horrific experience.
I believe that Jamaica should be closed. I'm glad that Casa was shut down. I don't know much about the others. Cross Creek? I thank Cross Creek. I have achieved what I have always been looking for with the help of Cross Creek.
True freedom comes within. Yes we didn't have tennis shoes. But we still had protection for our feet. It's not as if we were out in the cold bare foot. Not talking? At Cross Creek we were able to talk more than people think. Yes we were in trouble if we talked about drugs, sex, suicide and such. But my parents would have been upset if I talked about that at home. Seminars? Very emotionally upset to some people. Some are even scarred. I am not. I felt it releiving to talk about all that was on my chest. What do I have to hide from? Judgement? Please people will judge all the time. It wasn't scary to me and still isn't. In fact a lot of my emotional healing happened in the seminars. Yes there were some processes I didn't even agree on nor supported. I didn't go through with them. I told the facilitator why I didn't go through them. I wasn't reprimanded nor held back for it. Amazing I know. Being told what to do when to do it. We deal with that every day and by choice and not by choice. Some rules were rediculous yes, but was I going to bitch about it? No, life is filled with idiotic rules. Is it right that kids are abused? Not at all. That I do wish to eliminate as well.  
I thank Cross Creek for giving me different views on life. I AM angry at the people who victimized students. I feel for the victims and hope that a stop will be put to the negative aspects. A reformation is in order. But to be honest I don't think it will happen. I think that they'll just have to shut down completely to abstain from harming the teens.
I commend you all for your passion and drive for what you believe in. I have a great deal of respect for most people on this board even if they don't aggree with me.
All in all I believe that no matter what one goes through inner freedom can never be taken away. Being peaceful is such a wonderful feeling. I still have problems don't get me wrong. I still have unfair crap happening. I choose to deal with it head on. I will never give up on myself. No matter how hard life is. Good luck to you all. If you ever have any specific questions feel free to ask. No matter what it is I will answer with sheer honesty.

I understand that there are those cases in which correctional facilities have abused people. I understand that there are genuine bad experiences. I agree that they need to be addressed.
But to those of you who call the success stories, good experiences, advocates, and graduates of the program brainwashed are being quite judgemental. Who are you to question someones success? If they are honestly happy and doing well what harm does it cause you?
It bothers me that people are so close minded to say that it's all fake. If a drug addict found that religion helped them not do drugs and live a life they always wanted what is the point in saying that it's b/s? If it works for them great.
Attack and question the fact that abuse happens (I'm for that as well). Attack the physical abuse.
The program wasn't the fix it all for me. What it did was offer me insight and a different point of view. It helped a certain percentage, the rest of it was me and other resources. TB, and Casa, I aggree, weren't helpful. I didn't learn a thing at Casa except for compliancy. The emotional clensing is what I needed. I got that at CCM.

What ever happened to CHI3?[ This Message was edited by: Perrigaud on 2005-03-10 18:02 ]

What shadey things were occurring if any?