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OverLordd:
See the issue is alot of these programs are the same under diffrent names, they are all dirivatives of each other. We can smear the programs that use the same tactics with the same brush.

Anonymous:
Any facility that cuts off contact between parents and child as a policy, even just at the beginning, is a bad facility.

There are good facilities.  None of them cut off contact between parents and child with *one* exception: a licensed psychiatrist may, *briefly*, put a hold on a specific patient's mail--but only in a *real* mental hospital--if the patient's mental health is immediately at risk---like if the patient is suicidal or homicidal and the parent is really obnoxious and likely to push the patient over the edge into violence.

The programs' one-size-fits-all stopping of contact is never, ever a justifiable policy for a facility to follow.

*Any* facility that does that is a bad facility.

Timoclea

Anonymous:
Now this is a reasonable post!  I would tend to agree, based on mostly just instinct - however, I don't know that this particular program does that.  They seem to encourage parent involvement and communication...  But this is a very good thing to check out before going with a program!

I worked at a residential science school (not one for troubled kids - a fun science camp) and there was discussion about not sending letters home the first day.  Also, we didn't let kids call home at all.  

But there were very good reasons for this - the students' teachers were here and if there was a problem, they could talk to them, and the teachers could call home if needed.  The issue with our students was homesickness.  They were only there for 5 days, and the same kids who were crying the first night because they were homesick were crying on Friday because they had such a great time they didn't want it to be over yet.  In over 40 years of experience, we learned that when the kids called home, it not only didn't help, it made their homesickness worse, and basically ruined the experience that would be the highlight of their school years otherwise.  We would explain this to students every week and they got it - I would ask the students, if someone was homesick, and they called home, do you think that would make it better or worse?  They would always answer "worse."  Even the 12 year old kids knew this.  

The letter thing was because if a kid was horribly homesick, they might write all kinds of horrible stuff and the parent might freak out and come pick them up - except by the time they arrived, the kid would no longer want to leave, creating problems.  I always mailed the letters the first day  anyway, because chances of that happening were so small - most kids just had a wonderful time and learned a lot.  In the seven years I worked there, we never had a problem with that.

My point (and I do have one, somewhere... now where was that point?  Oh yes...) is that there might be legitimate reasons to temporarily at the beginning avoid contact (notice I didn't say cut off, since that is more severe in my mind - but avoid, with the agreement of parties involved).  

Of course, residential programs for troubled teens are a lot different than elementary school science camp!  

But I guess I am taking the approach of really examining each program on its individual merits because from being in a similar field, I know the kind of people that get into this are those who really want to make a difference, who do it because they believe in it and want to help.  Of course, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, according to traditional wisdom, so looking at all the details, and checking a program out thoroughly is all the more important.  

Okay, that's all I'm going to say in this forum - I just wandered in off the web looking for a little information and I found it!

Best of luck to everyone.

Anonymous:
i am a graduate from the monarch school. for all of you people out there who keep on bashing it let me ask you this one question. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN THERE? i assume that most of you have not. i lived there for two years of my life. yes i LIVED you did not. you have no idea what you are talking about. i put my heart and soul and blood and tears into that school. i watched it grow from the very beginning. i was there. none of you were.

i experienced everything first hand you did not. without monarch school i would not be who i am. they have given me so many tools to live by. do i belive all of them? no. i have taken the tools that i have found most useful and applied them to my life. am i saying that monarch school is the be all and end all? no but without it many of my best friends in the whole world would be dead and i don't think i would be able to deal with that if they ever did. do i agree with all the methods that they use. no. but i know that without monarch school i would not have done half the most amazing things i have done in my life.

the staff there for the most part are incredibly loving, giving and honest. i would trust them with my life. i didn't know i could ever be happy or trust people without the help that i learned there. i am in no way brainwashed.

before you continue to fabricate false allegations  i would ask all of you to go up there and visit for yourself. spend time there and get to know the people before you make up lies.

joyce- you are not an idiot. i hope your daughter is doing well. i graduted in 2003 so i don't think i ever got a chance to meet her. i hope to see her at the next reunion if i am available to go. i hope she is doing well. and if she needs anything she can contact me via the website.

sincerely,
a loving woman
Lucy

Anonymous:
"Now this is a reasonable post!" - and that one isn't. The amount of pure bullshit emanating from that is staggering. How much do you get paid to post that shit? You know damn well there's a difference, and your weasel words "avoid contact" mean that you deserve to die.

"i am in no way brainwashed." No, you're another fucking idiot programmie trolling Fornits. Kill yourself, and fuck the body.

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