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landyh:
Hey,
I also got to do my turn on the Skipper Chuck Show. Just for the record though I went to the seed the first time voluntarily in 1970. I was nine years old. By the time I was the age you were when you went into the program it was 1972 and I was re-entering the program somewhat less voluntarily for the second time. In 1970 not only was I the first sub teen to ever go to the Seed there simply didn't exist a seedling population that was enrolled for attitude problems alone. Most of the earlier members had fairly serious drug histories.
Cheers

landyh:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-25 09:28:00, landyh wrote:

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Most of the earlier members had fairly serious drug histories.

Cheers "

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Before anyone says it I am well aware that some of those earlier members could have inflated their drug history for egocentric purposes or further acceptance within the group but both my sister and I brought people we knew into the program and none of them would have had to create a fictitous past in order to sound "bad" enough. Beyond that I have little doubt that most of those (even the worst) eventually stopped using on there own. None that I can remember stayed clean because of the Seed. As a footnote I met a girl last night at an AA meeting who it turns out went through Safe. The conversation started with her saying something to the effect that she had been through something when she was young that I couldn't even imagine. It ended with her realising she wasn't completly alone. I pointed her in this direction and I hope she will at least take a look at what is offered here. It has helped me to begin to come to terms with how The Seed caused me to fool myself most of all.
Take care all

GregFL:
Thanks Landy.  You know, sometimes when I talk to people I see things that are almost imperceptable to the average person.  An inflection maybe, a certain language style...these things often make me want to ask if they were in the seed or a seed knockoff program.  I almost never do ask the question however, even tho thousands of people our age and younger have been thru Art's style of "rehab".  The only people I really talk to about this stuff are my sister, my best friend, (who doesn't really get it), and of course, you people on this forum.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2006-04-25 09:28:00, landyh wrote:

"Hey,

I also got to do my turn on the Skipper Chuck Show. Just for the record though I went to the seed the first time voluntarily in 1970. I was nine years old. By the time I was the age you were when you went into the program it was 1972 and I was re-entering the program somewhat less voluntarily for the second time. In 1970 not only was I the first sub teen to ever go to the Seed there simply didn't exist a seedling population that was enrolled for attitude problems alone. Most of the earlier members had fairly serious drug histories.

Cheers "

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Oh, did you talk about the Seed on Skipper Chuck? My sis did. They really loved the novelty of a 10- or 11-year-old "druggie."  Hmm, I must have seen you in 72. I went in voluntarily in 72 (well, I did whatever my dad said, "voluntarily," let's put it that way). Of course, I was a barely-noticeable, very-compliant and very-dorky little thing -- so no one even bothered to harass me!  :smile: You sound more like my sister (who was also getting quite "non-compliant" at 12).

NOT12NOW:

--- Quote ---As far as my sister, as soon as she was allowed to  go home, she started writing "the Seed Sucks" all over the neighborhood. She was a real anomaly, entirely resistant to indoctrination.."
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 Interesting so they eventually gave up and let her go home?  Did she graduate?

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Cleveland chick 76-77[ This Message was edited by: NOT12NOW on 2006-04-26 10:42 ][ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2006-04-26 19:30 ]

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