I was unaware nospank was pushing to outlaw spanking. Are you saying that's the case?
Nospank takes the position that children should no longer be excluded from the legal protections against assault and battery that apply to adults.
That makes sense. But the problem is enforcing it. How is it even possible? If it means, as our troll friend suggested, putting a camera in every home or some sort of "raising your kid" inspector person, it's probably not worth it. The CPS are nazis as it is. I tend to agree with the program side that the government should have no business raising kids. Where I differ is that I believe that kids should be able to assert certain natural rights that are not protected at the moment (or at least not enforced), such as the right to refuse treatment. Minors, at a certain age, can refuse medical treatment, but somehow that's not the case with programs since they operate in sort of a mushy middleground where they claim that it's "emotional growth" and not technically treatment.
If a procedure undertaken while a minor (such as thought reform) has effects lasting into adulthood, it's essentially an adult decision and as such, something that requires consent of the particular person (even if a minor at the time) to undergo. What programs do is not a tiny thing. Programs do change personalities, but the change is hardly gentle, hardly humane, and hardly ethical, especially when it is done without fully informed consent... and it tends to backfire even when it does "work"... Probably has something to do with the fact that you can't "help" people if they don't want your help.
