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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-05-01 13:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The reason so many post anonymously is because Colleen tries to intimidate those who say anything negative about MMS. Facts are facts; many people can experience the horrors of war, torture, rape or other awful events, and get over it, for the most part, and go on with their lives. Others, who are perhaps more sensitive, live with nightmares, flashbacks and debilitating fear for years or forever. Just because some can "get over it" doesn't make the event an acceptable learning experience. There is simply no excuse for treating anyone with such utter disrespect, especially a child. "

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I am not here to take sides or argue anyones opinion with them but if you are still scared of a woman who once was an authority figure at a school you attended calling you up and telling you not to talk badly about MMS you have other issues to face. We are all adults now, and you shouldn't feel intimadated or threatened by someone who you are on the same level as now.

Melissa Gower.

Anonymous:
I don't think it was a student who wrote that post. At least it didn't sound like one to me. (Nope, it wasn't me, I'm just speculating.)

Anonymous:
Melissa,

HELLO.......PEOPLE DO NOT WANT LAWSUITS TO BE FILES AGAINST THEM. THEY HAVE LIVES TO LIVE AND DO NOT NEED ANYONE NAGGING THEM IN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES THREATNING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE CHOOSING TO SPEAK FREELY. FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOT SO EASY...THAT'S A SHAME...WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING THE SCHOOL ANYWAY?

Anonymous:
No where in anything that I said did I defend MMS. I said "I am not here to take sides or argue anyones opinion with them but if you are still scared of a woman who once was an authority figure at a school you attended calling you up and telling you not to talk badly about MMS you have other issues to face. We are all adults now, and you shouldn't feel intimadated or threatened by someone who you are on the same level as now. "
My point was that Colleen or John or anyone at MMS cannot sue you, and I highly doubt they would. They aren't stupid and clearly are just using the threat of a lawsuit for intimidation. You cannot sue someone for sharing their experience,and moreover don't think they would want to take it into court because that would mean they would need evidence to prove that the things that whoever they were suing claimed were not true, and they don't have that evidence. My point was that if after all this time someone can't just say what they want without being scared of getting a phone call from someone they have no reason to be scared of,they  have bigger problems to face. People who are too afraid to even state their name when making a serious claim are never taken seriously. I'm not saying that to be mean, but it's true. If you are THAT serious about a matter and want something to be done you need to back it up with all you have and put yourself out there. If you hide your identity you can't do that. Also, you don't need to speak to me like I'm some ignorant idiot who doesn't understand why you and others don't want to use their names, I do understand your reason but I am telling you that you have these fears for no reason. Unless you do something illegal which you haven't, MMS can't take any action against you and get anywhere with it. I just feel like if someone wants to make a stand they need to do it, not just talk about it.

Melissa Gower.


--- Quote ---On 2005-05-02 15:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Melissa,



HELLO.......PEOPLE DO NOT WANT LAWSUITS TO BE FILES AGAINST THEM. THEY HAVE LIVES TO LIVE AND DO NOT NEED ANYONE NAGGING THEM IN THEIR PERSONAL LIVES THREATNING THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE CHOOSING TO SPEAK FREELY. FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS NOT SO EASY...THAT'S A SHAME...WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING THE SCHOOL ANYWAY?"

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katfish:
Melissa, I think you're absolutely right. If someone feels intimidated by Colleen they certainly have issues, but I think those issue were likely if not brought on certainly exacerbated by MMS.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/nimhptsd.pdf
 
PTSD is an interested disorder that develops when trauma occurs to a person and can, I think, in part, explain that strong emotional reaction to clamp down and feel all the feelings once felt and expereinced while at MMS.  Like MMS did tell us, feeling aren't facts,  I'm sure everyone can logically say to themselves, Colleen's just another lady making her way in the world, but emotionally there is no change to the intimidation felt when being telephoned after overcoming obstacles just to post.  Bottom line, the saying used to go 'if you're not following the ways of MMS you're fucked up.'  When you feel you have to go along for your own survival sake and later recant all those lies, it's scary.  MMS was crucial in us formulating our identity and, if while there a person felt this dualism develop all along b/c they felt forced to pretend MMS beliefs to fit their own truth, then of course it's going to be scary to come out and be honest and say to the majority and to the person perceived to be one of the leaders of it all- I think you're wrong.  The truth is often difficult to face anyway, but to have it cause conflict?  And to face the fact that some girls had to supress their truths for so long and did so afterwards, it's damn near amazing anyone can make sense of it all to ever get a clear picture of who they really are, if they are not everything they were supposed to be according to MMS and sometimes parent and other alumni and then to verbalize it.

I think this is the reason why, for those of us who don't agree with the tactics and have experienced them have a very tough time getting it together and address this important issue.

Additionally, who hasn't heard stories about someone being irrationally fearful after being raped- the fear caused by that trauma doesn't just go away.  In time I'm sure those who fear Colleen will get past that.  I know I did.

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