Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
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BuzzKill:
Laura's account closely mirrors my son's account.
He also felt the emotional distress was unendurable and took the worst toll; and he has also said jail is MUCH easier. After WWASP - Jail was a simple thing, hardly worth worrying about. This isn't what I was hoping for - as a parent.
BTW - I agree - the perpatrators of this abuse should be in jail - or rather Prison.
[ This Message was edited by: BuzzKill on 2005-04-30 19:52 ]
Anonymous:
I remeber something really fucking weird about CCM. When I was there a short while, a girl from the upper phase campus stabbed her roomate. It was so surreal. We didnt really find out more than they wanted us to know about it, but I remember they didnt explain why it happened.
Crazy.
ginger, the more I think about it the more I realize CCM was not a good place. I can relate to the feelings of fear. Feeling scared to drop even when I hadnt done anything really wrong. I remeber soem staff members that i had forgotten that were very rude and verbally abusive. Anyone remember Ron Garret? My friend Jess and I were discussing today about how much he sucked. And David Gilcrese? How can anyone say he is a helpful good man. And I found out through a friend that my therapist was fired because he wasnt licenced to be a therapist for the things we were doing. And I found out from a really awsome staff member who quit, that they had a policy that if two girls got the same category, the one with the parents who could afford to keep her their longer would drop to phase one 0 points. The one with the parents who had little money only dropped a phase or two. It was scandelous. And she quit for various other unethical reasons. Some staf members really were there because they wanted to help the kids. I appreciated them. But I can see now ginger, the program uses intimidation to make people afraid and therfore more suceptible to brainwashing. It makes sense. Perri is going to be pissy at me, but I can see more about it now that is the truth. It wasnt physically abusive to me. But I can see how that is mental abuse. And Perri can agree wiht me that Ron Garret can be mentally abusive. I dotn think it is entirely evil, just for the most part. And the way they try to get you to change is wrong. And they dont know everything. But I do remember I liked discovery because of Jan. I would attend her seminar outside the program. And her Keys were pretty interesting too. Focus was so so and Accountability was fucking stupid. So Im going to stop babbaling now. Its been hard to come to these realizations about the program, so I get kinda sidetracked. Just kind of confessing in a way I guess. Well, Thanks for anyone who listens.
Amanda
Antigen:
Amanda, I think it's wonderful that you're figuring this stuff out. If you understand it then you probably won't repeat the same patterns in future relationships.
And I deeply appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the matter with all of us. One of the reasons I never joined any action against Straight was that it was always about the overt violence and I thought that missed the mark. And that's why I'm especially interested in CCM over other LGA type programs.
I never did think that everyone involved in these programs was working from evil motives. For the most part, they believe that what they're doing is good and right and helpful, if unpleasant. Even David Gilcreace and Pepper Spray Jay probably tell themselves that and believe it.
But I don't think they understand the harm they do to people any more than doctors in the `50's who advised new mothers to take 6 weeks bed rest after a normal delivery, for example. The difference is that the real medical field has a strong tradition and public policy in place to help weed out bad practices. The troubled parent industry has only us.
The last struggles of a great superstition are very frequently the worst.
--Andrew Dickson
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Anonymous:
Its kinda funny. I remember in support meetings after I graduated, people were discussing how there were allegations that WWASPs programs were abusive and we all disagreed. Out of ignorance. But now that i know I wish I could go back and tell them the truth. Not that they would listen. sigh
I also remember soem heads of the program having us high phase girls go to a place to talk about how the program helped us. Now that I think about it, it is all a big cycle. They brainwash you, then they use you to recruit new kids, then they send you home unprepared for real life, and then you "relapse".
I am thinking of going into the early child development education field in college next semester. Or social work for kids from abusive homes. My Mom has alot of friends who could maybe help further this plight to stop the child abuse at these programs. I just want to do something to help, considering I have been blind to alot of this for a while. And I feel I was contirbuting to the problem not the solution. Anything I can do?
Amanda
Antigen:
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You're doing the best thing right now, educating yourself and talking about what you went though. Everyone has their own way of helping, you'll find your nitch I have NO doubt!
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I quite agree. I don't think those little recruiting junkets would be so successful if even a few audience members had a heads up on them. And there are so damned many of us who went through these programs. But, till fairly recently, no former Seedling or Straightling or whatever would have recognized the Program when they heard terms like boot camp or TBS. And vice versa. That's changing.
"Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppression of both mind and body will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day."
Thomas Jefferson
I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves, it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others. Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.
--Abraham Lincoln
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