Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Brat Camp
ABC Brat Camp
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-13 23:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
I find this to be a very enlightening documentary.
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One born every minute, I suppose.
This is not an enlightening documentary. This is blatant propaganda, advertisement, bullshit! Let me ask you something, when you see an Florida OJ commercial, do you honestly believe that your orange juice was hand squeezed for you by a friendly old farmer? Want to know the reality? Of course you don't! It might make you uncomfortable about purchasing and consuming OJ. And we mustn't have that!!
:roll:
There is no devil and no hell. Thy soul will be dead even sooner than thy body: fear therefore nothing any more.
--Freidrich Nietzsche, German philosopher
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Anonymous:
We watched this last night with mixed feelings. It all comes down to the "hyperactive" fourteen year old. First off, I don't believe that pharaceutical meds are the answer to anything. ADHD existed far before the corporations decided to label and milk it for untold billions of dollars at the expense of anquished parents. As far as Sagewalk goes, we pretty much agreed that it seems awfully weird in a cultish sort of way.
Earth names? Horrible, silly, and undermining any sense of seriousness. "Hey Round Boulder, I just talked to Raven Mother and Wild Cougar and they said etc etc blah blah blah..."
Phantom Dook? What are they, in preschool? Why not say "Some nasty naughty person made an smelly oopsie last night. Bad bad bad!" Does the Pope shit in the woods? Of course, just like how the bear wears a silly hat.
And all those "counselors" look like exactly the type of people that I DON'T want to ever come across in the great outdoors. They all seem a little too programmed and serious, which made them come off as pretty damn creepy. I don't think I saw any of them smile or laugh the entire two hours. Are they not supposed to show emotion? It'd be like camping with a bunch of Vulcans, except I wouldn't expect to wake up in the middle of the night to find Spock or T'pol staring at me all creepy like. We couldn't help but wonder aloud if there was any sort of "fraternization" amongst the slutty teens and the rugged counselors in the privacy of the open desert. Granted, I didn't know anything about kids dying in these sort of survival camp programs, but that only makes it worse.
I may not have all the answers when it comes to dealing with problem children, but this whole Brat Camp thing was very misleading and puts off a very unsettling vibe. Too bad most Americans won't recognize that.
Bottom line, shame on ABC for stooping to FOX tv's depths of shamelessness in the name of ratings. Too bad, so sad.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-04 00:51:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Just wanted to point out that it appears you are confusing TWO DIFFERENT TELEVISION SHOWS.
The original "Brat Camp" was an English show featuring SIX familes who sent their kids to a 'bootcamp' in the States...it won some awards in Europe, and had a repeat airing several months ago on the ABC Family Channel (hence the confusion).
The UPCOMING "BRAT CAMP" is produced by Shapiro/Grodner Productions and sends NINE kids to a camp in Oregon called Sagewalk, which, for the record, is NOT a bootcamp...but is indeed an award winning wilderness therapy program, where certified clinical therapists try to help troubled teens deal with the difficult issues of their lives. No one is yelling at these kids or telling them to "drop and give me 20!" No double-speak intended, it just may be that your definition of a "bootcamp" is different than mine.
This new "BRAT CAMP" is a well-made, uplifting and emotional series...and you might want to watch an episode or two before making premature judgements based on incomplete 'research.'
I'm not trying to brainwash you or anything...it's just that you might actually like it! I hope you do anyway. It was a labor of love for all involved. And I'm very proud of this show.
Sincerely,
John Platt
Co-Executive Producer, "Brat Camp" (the new American one...!)"
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Hi John,
The majority of posters on this site are HELL BENT against ANY kind of treatment programs for teens, because they are ALL abusive, torturous, money hungry places (lol). SO, don't expect to have to many intelligent replies to your posts. Most of the posters either never finished/completed the program they were in, or they backslid afterwards and want to blame ALL the wrongs in their lives on the program they were in as a teen (which they HAD to do SOMETHING to get to a point where their parents went to these lengths to help them). Sad, but true.
Brat Camp was very interesting to watch, and I think these kids CAN get a LOT out of their experince there, that can help them to deal with life constructively as opposed to lying, drugging and being nasty and violent.
Anonymous:
There are a LOT more ungrateful, disrespectful, greedy and unresponsible kids out there who could USE a good couple months of no "recreation", and material things to get their attitudes in CHECK.
Camping, working, walking daily is NOT abuse. Get off your high horses.
Maybe they should send all these kids to you since YOU are the experts. That would open your eyes.
It's not punishment. It's good old fashioned WORK and focus. ALL can benefit from that. Maybe you all should try it now. Bet it would change your perspectives (and you need it).
webcrawler:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-14 16:58:00, Anonymous wrote:
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There are a LOT more ungrateful, disrespectful, greedy and unresponsible kids out there who could USE a good couple months of no "recreation", and material things to get their attitudes in CHECK.
Camping, working, walking daily is NOT abuse. Get off your high horses.
Maybe they should send all these kids to you since YOU are the experts. That would open your eyes.
It's not punishment. It's good old fashioned WORK and focus. ALL can benefit from that. Maybe you all should try it now. Bet it would change your perspectives (and you need it)."
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Gee, you first. I've already done that and you are so right! My perspective has changed! I have seen the light! These places are abusive.
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