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ABC Brat Camp
Anonymous:
Can't you just hear the ed cons and referral agencies sales pitch right now ...
"As seen in ABC's BRAT CAMP, these wilderness camps are the hottest thing since eatable underwear..."
Sign up today ... don't delay. These camps are filling up so fast it could be years before we can save your kid's life ... and by that time, they could be an adult ... and then it's too late.
LMAO ... and there lies the irony.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---These camps are filling up so fast it could be years before we can save your kid's life
--- End quote ---
Too true. When the first Brat Camp was aired in Britain RedCliff Ascent had a six month waiting list overnight.
Deborah:
Sweetie,
53 teens have died (read: been killed) in wilderness/boot camps. That alone would be reason to 'bad mouth' the industry. You may find that an acceptable 'risk'. Many do not. Oregon wilderness programs don't have the best track record.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#49931
Sagewalk's record is questionable:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#81232
Yes, Sagewalk employed Aaron Bacon's murderer, Eric Henry during a 9 month diversion agreement following Bacon's death. He was supposed to refrain from involvement in similar programs for pay. He left, when found-out and went on to Obsidian Trails where another death occured.
http://www.contac.org/contaclibrary/tragedy28.htm
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... art=0#5214
Mark Wardle, who was responsible for the death of Ian August at Skyline Journey, was also employed by Sage Walk.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#63079
Wardle also worked at Brown School's 'On Track' where Charles Moody was killed.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... art=0#5214
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... =9&start=0
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I noticed that staff are extremely 'toned down' in terms of the typical 'bait and punish' MO. On another day, at SW or any other program, in would not be uncommon for Larry (the ticking time bomb) to be harrassed until restraint became 'necessary'. I didn't see that happen last night. Best case, SW 'might' learn that bait and punish is not necessary, if indeed this kid gets anything at all out of the experience.
And the pathetic Impact Letters. Give me a break. That's not 'therapy', it's guilt, shame and manipulation. If I were the kid's counselor I'd advise the kid to reciprocate with their own Impact Letter-
"I wouldn't spend your 'hard earned money' and act as if it grew on trees if you hadn't conditioned me to believe that. You 'spoiled' me. I didn't ask you to. I resent you for sending me to the desert as punishment."
"I'm hyper because I'm BORED as hell. Our family life is boring. School is boring. You never required me to make a contribution, and then punish me for not contributing. I might have benefited from mowing, raking, washing the car, taking out the trash, hiking/biking for pleasure."
A lot of focus on Jada's lying. No focus on the two who taught her well? Isn't it a lie to deny a child accurate information about their relationship with others? To lead him/her to believe that they should receive anything they want with no expectation? These parents obviously got confused- you give love unconditionally, not material possessions.
When do the parents go to boot camp? When do they hear all the reasons their kid is angry, bored, hopeless, scared? This 'therapy' reeks of double standard. The parents can be lame, show no respect but expect it, neglect the kid's real needs, and then pay to have them tortured into compliance- to 'act' with respect.
This is undesirable authoritarian, top down, control; lauded as 'therapy'. The parents should be right there with the teens, sleeping in freezing weather, no hygiene, pathetic food, using a latrine, hiking with packs equal to 1/3 of their body weight, publicly divulging their wrongs. They are equally responsible for their kid's distress and skewed perceptions of reality, if not more so.
webcrawler:
You are absolutely right Deb! When are the parents going to be incarcerated????!!!!!
I remember during my 2 year stint in "treatment" I constanlty heard how substance abuse was a family problem. In the 80s there was a big craze about "enablers" and how they contributed to the family member's substance abuse. Why should the families have the luxury of living free in the outside world? I bet most of those parents are "dysfunctional" as well so I say if they truly believe in these places than go ahead and sign your rights away on the dotted line and live just like the child does.
I hope future generations will look back on the acceptance of these shows and places as something that is shameful and to never be repeated.
Anonymous:
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/foreveryoung.html
Impact letters written by the mothers of Ian August, Michelle Sutton and Aaron Bacon.
You wanna talk "impact"?
Imagine being the parent of a child who comes home in a body bag from a wilderness therapy camp?
SHAME ON ABC for not even having the decency to honor the children who died in the name of therapy.
THESE CHILDREN HAVE NAMES. THEY HAVE FACES. THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN. THEIR PARENTS WERE LIED TO AND PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE.
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org/wildernesstherapy.html
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