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Deborah:
Everyone has a different perspective on this. Mine is that it was largely due to both parents turning their attention and allegiance to work. They are stretched too thin to have the mental resource to have a meaningful relationship with their kids. They drag their ass in from work, everyone sits down for a fast-food meal (at best) and then the kids are put to bed. These kids are lucky if they get 15 minutes of their parents undivided attention. Many from birth on.
All this labeling of 'attactment disorder' can be attributed to kids not having at least one parent present and involved. Being expected to be too independent too quick in areas they aren't developmentally ready for while simultaneously being expected to be dependent in areas they should be allowed independence.
And the Cat's In The Cradle...
AtomicAnt:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-29 11:42:00, Deborah wrote:
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Everyone has a different perspective on this. Mine is that it was largely due to both parents turning their attention and allegiance to work. They are stretched too thin to have the mental resource to have a meaningful relationship with their kids. They drag their ass in from work, everyone sits down for a fast-food meal (at best) and then the kids are put to bed. These kids are lucky if they get 15 minutes of their parents undivided attention. Many from birth on.
All this labeling of 'attactment disorder' can be attributed to kids not having at least one parent present and involved. Being expected to be too independent too quick in areas they aren't developmentally ready for while simultaneously being expected to be dependent in areas they should be allowed independence.
And the Cat's In The Cradle...
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--- End quote ---
You sum it up quite well.
But I thought that 'attachment disorder' is a myth and 'attachment therapy' has been discredited in the established psych community.
Deborah:
Nope, very much alive.
Here's a very popular university program in Texas. Getting good reviews.
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communities ... dren_1.asp
While I dislike psych labels, and all they imply, there is undeniably a problem for some kids who, bottomline, haven't been loved and respected; therefore lack the ability to love and respect themselves or others. That's the simple explanation, as I see it.
Ever read the monkey research? Their biological mother was replaced with a wire-mesh, mechanical 'mother' that delivered milk without warmth and affection. They were deprived of love and touch. They could not care for their offspring. How could they? You can't know what you haven't learned/experienced. They were violent, refused to feed and nurture them.
When I first read the TCU article what really struck me was that people are actually in these classes learning, among other things, how to give nurturing touch. The masses are in a sad state.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-29 20:31:00, AtomicAnt wrote:
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On 2005-07-29 11:42:00, Deborah wrote:
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Everyone has a different perspective on this. Mine is that it was largely due to both parents turning their attention and allegiance to work. They are stretched too thin to have the mental resource to have a meaningful relationship with their kids. They drag their ass in from work, everyone sits down for a fast-food meal (at best) and then the kids are put to bed. These kids are lucky if they get 15 minutes of their parents undivided attention. Many from birth on.
All this labeling of 'attactment disorder' can be attributed to kids not having at least one parent present and involved. Being expected to be too independent too quick in areas they aren't developmentally ready for while simultaneously being expected to be dependent in areas they should be allowed independence.
And the Cat's In The Cradle...
"
--- End quote ---
You sum it up quite well.
But I thought that 'attachment disorder' is a myth and 'attachment therapy' has been discredited in the established psych community.
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No attachment theory is alive and well. It's behind a lot of other theories too. Especially family therapies.
AtomicAnt:
Another young life thrown away:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/29/baseb ... index.html
Youth sentenced to detention center in baseball bat killing
Boy, 13, ordered to stay in facility till age 25
Friday, July 29, 2005; Posted: 12:18 p.m. EDT (16:18 GMT)
Brian Rourke, talks to reporters after the sentencing of a 13-year-old convicted in the killing of his son,
Jeremy Rourke.
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A 13-year-old boy convicted of beating his friend to death with a baseball bat
was sentenced Thursday to a youth detention facility until he is 25 years old, although he could be paroled
before then.
"Watching my son die in front of my face was devastating," the victim's father, Brian Rourke, told the court. "My
son, Jeremy (Rourke), was killed for teasing another kid."
Rourke said he and his son were "best friends."
The convicted teen, whose name is being withheld because he is a juvenile, was found guilty of second-degree
murder after beating Rourke in the knee and head with an aluminum bat after a youth game.
The young teen's feet were shackled during the disposition hearing, and he sat quietly.
Superior Court Judge Richard Naranjo imposed the maximum sentence. Under California law, children under 14 cannot
be tried as adults. The hearing was open to the media.
The attack followed an argument after a Pony League baseball game in Palmdale, California, about 40 miles
northeast of Los Angeles. The suspect was described as a well-liked boy with no criminal record.
Defense attorney William McKinney argued that Rourke was relentlessly bullying the younger boy before the attack,
and said his client had merely taken "the wrong path."
However, prosecutors contended the older boy was merely teasing him.
"We cannot take the chance in the future that he will display that behavior," said prosecutor Lonnie Felk.
Witnesses said the 13-year-old's team had just lost its first game of the season, and he was getting in line at a
snack bar when he and Rourke got into some sort of scuffle. Some witnesses said there was a dispute between the
teens over their place in line; others said Rourke teased the suspect over the loss.
A psychologist described the younger boy as "well-socialized," a good student and "compliant with authority."
Baseball coach Allen McBroom, who has known the convicted teen for five years, fought back tears as he said the
child was the kind of polite boy he liked his son to pal around with.
CNN Producer Sara Weisfeldt contributed to this report.
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I post this, because I don't know what to think of it. Murder is serious, but was this an isolated accident due to loss of control? Is the sentence the best thing for the kid and society? I would rather see him graduate from college at 25 than walk out of a prison a hard core ex-con.
Probably off-topic. Sorry.
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