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ABC Brat Camp
Anonymous:
Now some things are universal: if you or I put our hand in fire...our skin gets burned.
Other things are not so general.
A few posts back Webcrawler claimed to "have a clue" about Obsidian Student's experience because both of them had been in programs.
Problem is: Webcrawler seems to have hated his experience, Obsidian Student found his---not perfect---but overall helpful and positive.
So either these are different experiences or (as is more common here in true-believer-land) anyone who thinks his experience was good must be brainwashed, evil, "just wait for another year and you'll see the light", etc, etc, etc.
Obsidian Student's posts seem pretty balanced and reasonable to me...especially compared to some other posters. He's 6 years post program---if he was going to have some great revelation there's a good chance he would have had it by now
You might just as easily argue that given another year or two Webcrawler or any number of the negative types here could have a revelation that their program was really good. Now how likely it that to happen?
OverLordd:
The porgram could of changed between webcrawlers and the guy with 6 years out. that would change experiances.
webcrawler:
--- Quote ---On 2005-07-21 07:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Now some things are universal: if you or I put our hand in fire...our skin gets burned.
Other things are not so general.
A few posts back Webcrawler claimed to "have a clue" about Obsidian Student's experience because both of them had been in programs.
Problem is: Webcrawler seems to have hated his experience, Obsidian Student found his---not perfect---but overall helpful and positive.
So either these are different experiences or (as is more common here in true-believer-land) anyone who thinks his experience was good must be brainwashed, evil, "just wait for another year and you'll see the light", etc, etc, etc.
Obsidian Student's posts seem pretty balanced and reasonable to me...especially compared to some other posters. He's 6 years post program---if he was going to have some great revelation there's a good chance he would have had it by now
You might just as easily argue that given another year or two Webcrawler or any number of the negative types here could have a revelation that their program was really good. Now how likely it that to happen?
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Oh please do tell us what your experience is oh "positive one". After 13 years of trying to forget about the place I was in, it all came back to me during a traumatic event.
And to be honest I too supported boot camps, etc. until a few years ago when I started learning about all the bad things happening. I had no clue, I thought the program I was in was the end all and be all of bad programs. I was wrong and I have since learned there are many more out there.
Anonymous:
Here's what really bothered me from last night:
The guy who's supposed to have a violent temper, I forgot his name, who they showed helping the little ADD kid up from the ground...they made this out to be some sort of transformation, when it's NOT. This show is so stupid. They made it sound like he's never liked anyone or showed the slightest bit of kindness ever his entire life.....until now....the breakthrough thanks to SAGEWALK. This is sickening.
The fact that they encourage the kids to go off on each other by sitting there silently letting them confront each other. Plus it's similar to what the field people say to them too so they know it's looked up to. And they want to get out of there so there's pressure to do what is wanted. Then they come in and say..this is sagewalk, we talk things out etc etc. What about the molested girl? Should she go talk to the person that molested her and put herself in danger. Again, this so is SO stupid.
And who was that kid they only showed once, crying during individual counseling? And they kept saying, this is going to be really hard for him, he's sensitive etc. Well....maybe he shouldn't be there then! Why keep him if he's maybe too sensitive? (And why do they have that little ADD kid there!! He's a KID and he has a biological disorder!!) And more importantly, why don't they ever show him?? Probably because he makes everyone look bad because he's obviously not a bad kid. Not that the rest are abnormal, but with him I bet it's undeniable.
My last complaint, is that they are teaching them through the dumb hikes that...nobody will be there to help you out. That's what they kept saying. What kind of a horrible, screwed up lesson is that to teach a bunch of kids. God.
webcrawler:
I read in yesterday's paper that this show had 10.4 million viewers last Wednesday. Sadly, this show will probably continue with a new set of kids.
If anything I hope the supporters and opposers of this place can at least come to a common ground on one issue. The issue being that the children should not be exploited on national television for entertainment purposes.
We already can see the mind set of at least one viewer with the insensitive remarks regarding a client being molested.
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