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Sue Scheff Refers Children To Storm Ridge Ranch
« on: May 02, 2005, 11:32:00 AM »
Tough Love Boot Camps-Putting Your Child in Danger

I was recently asked by a former colleague if I would recommend a tough love boot camp for children with behavior problems. After researching several of these camps, I would definitely have serious reservations. Here?s why.

They came at four-thirty in the morning, two burly men wearing cowboy hats. Crashing open the door to James? bedroom they grabbed him from his bed and threw him face down on the floor, pulling his hands hard behind his back and securing them with rough rope ?handcuffs.? It was useless for him to struggle because each man weighed well over 250 and both were well-muscled. They dragged James from his room out to the front door. A car was out front with the motor running ready for a get-away.

Despite the early morning surprise attack and the binding of the boy?s hands, this was no kidnapping. It wasn?t even a crime. The boy?s mother knew the men were coming. After having unlocked the front door for the men, she went to her bedroom and stayed there hearing her son scream and beg her to please help him. Under instructions from the men, she did not answer or open her bedroom door. She knew what was taking place because she had called a ?tough love boot camp? to come and straighten out her 15 year-old son. She condoned the entire situation.

James begged them to unbind his hands. They agreed to do so only when he understood that, if they took off the handcuffs, he had to strip down to his underwear and walk bare-footed to the car. That was the way James left his house, was placed in a car, and driven to the airport to board a private plane that would take him to the boot camp in Utah.

There seems to be a trend among parents who feel they need outside help to ?control? their own children. The ?tough love boot camps? advertised on the Web and in certain magazines seem to be an answer. They take over the roles of disciplinarian and moral leader that should be assigned to the parents.It is perfectly legal in the United States of America for parents to have their children taken to one of these camps, rough handling and humiliation notwithstanding.

Educators should take note. Parents are giving the names and school addresses of their children's teachers to camp administrators. Teachers are then sent "disciplinary problem" form letters asking them to identify "problem behavior." Their letters are used as a statement of agreement that the child has a behavioral problem. I would strongly advise teachers not to fill out anything unless it is discussed with their principal first. Any innocent assessment of a minor problem can be misquoted or taken out of context to the detriment of the child.

One such camp was brought to my attention by one of my readers, James? uncle who is also a teacher. He eventually found out that his nephew was unwillingly being held at Storm Ridge Ranch in Utah. If you look this ranch up on the Web you will be fooled into thinking that it is a vacation spot. If you read between the lines you can see that it is not.

It bills itself as a ?working ranch for boys? and has a policy detailing a ?treatment plan? that deals with ?bio-psycho-social? growth. Their boys, they say, are ones who have behavioral problems. These problems range from drugs to academic problems and are blamed on the ?seeming decline in strong family values and social conflicts. The boys are strictly monitored all waking hours with frequent bed checks during the night. For all intents and purposes it is a youth detention center. Rough treatments and constraints are the norm in taking unwilling boys to the ranch.

The humiliation of being handcuffed or being forced to strip down to your underwear is appalling. Being taken away from your home by force, with the knowledge that struggling may bring rougher treatment, can be compared to Gestapo tactics. Having ?supervisors? watch your every move with no communication with the outside world until you ?prove yourself worthy? is indeed the same as being imprisoned.

Unless the behavior problem is severe, (drugs, violence), I am hesitant to recommend a tough love boot camp. Here?s why. James was not a behavior problem. His ?problem? was that he was dyslexic and had never been diagnosed. His mother was told that he was lazy and had no interest in school. She took it as a sign of rebellion when he became angry and refused to do schoolwork. He was angry because he had difficulty reading. Other methods should have been used before having him taken in what is essentially a commando raid.

Before subjecting your child to this treatment exhaust every option available.

With the best intentions in the world, there is the danger of abuse of authority, of brutal treatment at a tough love camp. In the best case scenario it is still a form of imprisonment. You can label it what you will but the words ?tough? and ?love? do not belong together.

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art31131.asp
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2005, 12:11:00 PM »
Anonymous:
Can you verify that Sue Scheff of P.U.R.E referred this boy to Storm Ridge Ranch and that Sue Scheff arranged for these brutal escorts to take this boy out of his home in only his underwear?

Thank you.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 06:41:00 PM »
Anonymous posted an article re-print from another web forum? Did you notic the link at the bottom of the page?  If your trying to make an argument, please use worthy evidence...not some made up story or allegation from a writer that posesses not even a shred of educational credentials!

After reading such dribble I can't image that anyone would believe that 2 cowboys kidnapped, tied, and stripped a young man to get him ready for transport.  Since I AM an Educational Consultant, and I recommend programs to parents, I know there is not a program in the country that would hire a transport service to act in such a manner, let alone a treatment program that would accept a student under those conditions.

This whole Fornits forum thing is certainly interesting?!  Not very credible...since one of the moderators is Dr. Fucktard with the email address of dontgiveashit.com.  Nice.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2005, 07:26:00 PM »
You're either a spring chicken or a moron, TRD.

Dr. Fucktard is a mod for a forum for the trolls to have a fake, parody program, called SIBS:

http://www.fornits.com/SIBS

BTW, the SIBS forum is obviously a troll-haven. You really must be new, or gullable. Gullability is a trait a lot of programmies have, so dont feel TOO badly  :wave: Welcome to fornits.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2005, 07:34:00 PM »
Be fair Niles - Dr. Fucktard and so on can and do cause some raised eye brows for folks who don't know the history and personalities behind these fori.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2005, 07:44:00 PM »
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On 2005-05-02 15:41:00, The Real Deal wrote:

Since I AM an Educational Consultant, and I recommend programs to parents, I know there is not a program in the country that would hire a transport service to act in such a manner, let alone a treatment program that would accept a student under those conditions.


Much of what you "know" is simply not true. That wouldn't be a huge deal. You could say the same about most people. But since you're getting paid to know, it really is a big deal.

What happens when one of your customers shows up in court w/ proof that they were, indeed, shackled, stripped and roughed up? Did you tell the parents that would never happen? Do you think you might have some liability in all that?

Think about it. The indstry gets away with this kind of behavior only because it's so unbelievable. That's changing. Case in point:

http://www.mugshots.com/Criminal/Violen ... y+Hurd.htm

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2005, 07:54:00 PM »
There is a difference in being a "troll" and in being "new to these forum." I thought Dr. Fucktard and the SIS was real myself and was shocked, think what is going on here.
But if this guy is really a paid educational consultant--he better make it his business to KNOW what is going on out there in the real world of escort services. Don't know if this article real, or if Sue Scheff sent these bruts there or not; but it has been documented that kids have been roughed up by escorts, sexually molested by escorts, driven around in the trunks of cars. And, these escorts are not ALL educated in the fine art of psychology as advertised by one not to be named Referral Diva. So, if one is going to be in this business of referring kids to treatment programs--then one better know what kind of business ONE IS REALLY IN!!!
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