Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Mission Mountain School
For Colleen Harrington
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-05-13 15:46:00, Anonymous wrote:
I don't apologize. Therapy is revealing your secrets... getting them out, working through them, dealing with your shit. I had to write an entire life story of everything i'd never told anyone, and do you know how relieving that was?? secrets can be dangerous, they stew inside you... especially if you have guilt over any of it...
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Yes, secrets can be dangerous; whether you keep them in or reveal them to the wrong people.
Exactly what are the qualifications of the people to whom you revealed your secrets? How can you be sure that their advice was good advice? Were you ever put into a position to provide counseling to other girls? Were you qualified to do that?
No, they didn't hold a gun to your head litterally. But there are other forms of coercion that are a lot more effective. Social pressure alone is pretty effective sometimes. Social pressure under isolation is more effective.
I don't think these people know what they're doing. I do believe they're doing considerable harm.
Any comment, Colleen? This thread's for you, after all. And several different people have suggested that you're reading every word of it. No comment?
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
-- Charlie Brown, _Peanuts_ [Charles Schulz]
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Anonymous:
I never counseled other girls, gave them my opinion, but never counseled. And I believe these people did know what they were talking about, especially Gary who was very qualified. And when Carla came... same thing. The rest of the staff, teachers and stuff... would help us out, support us, but would never give us therapeutic assignments... I really don't think what the staff of MMS is doing today is harmful. Sure they coudl rework a few things, and they are, and that's what life's about... seeing what works, changing what doesn't, and I think they're doing a pretty good job of that these days.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2005-05-13 17:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I never counseled other girls, gave them my opinion, but never counseled.
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What's the difference?
--- Quote ---And I believe these people did know what they were talking about, especially Gary who was very qualified. And when Carla came... same thing. The rest of the staff, teachers and stuff... would help us out, support us, but would never give us therapeutic assignments... I really don't think what the staff of MMS is doing today is harmful. Sure they coudl rework a few things, and they are, and that's what life's about... seeing what works, changing what doesn't, and I think they're doing a pretty good job of that these days."
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But it's not asif we don't know already the results and effects of confrontational therapeutic communities. We do. Some of us know about it through firsthand experience; the nightmares, the neuroses and all. And that has led us to seek out others and compare notes. Some of those others are egg heads who know just where to look for the relavent research.
The research bears out our experience. We're actually not just dysfunctional, ungrateful, weak individuals who were too flawed to benefit from the great gifts of our respective gurus. We're the norm.
Your gurus would know this too if they would bother to look at the research or listen to their former students or even just use a little common sense before pressuring a little girl (you were, we all were, it's not an insult) to delve into her most painful, personal issues in front of a bunch of other little girls.
But they don't want to know.
Scoundrels are predictable, but you're a man of honor and that frightens me.
Anonymity Anonymous
return undef() if /coercion/i;
kerryberry420:
my god this got out of control this has turned into a war between girls each trying to prove that they are right. that wasn't what this was about at all. this was ONLY about trying to make legislature that monitors programs more closely. not just mms, all of them. the "teen help" industry is the fastest growing industry in the country and programs are popping up everywhere, i persoanlly think there should be an agency created just to monitor these programs. not something to get in the way of what they are doing but somehting to make sure that the girls (and boys) come first. sorry i let myself get off of my own topic even, but this was really all i wanted to get across.
Anonymous:
"this makes me absolutely fucking sick to my stomach. you want to talk about manipulation, this is it in full force."
I think that was Colleen.
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