Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Daytop Village
Has anybody been to Daytop lately?
Troll Control:
Hel-looo....? Ooooooooooo-dieeeeeeeeeeeeee....?
Must be busy formulating some other brilliant argument. Those damned facts must have gotten in the way again...
All joking aside, this is pretty typical of program people. When the facts are staring them right in the face, they must either admit that they were wrong, or withdraw. Let's just say, an admission won't be forthcoming.
I consider withdrawal tacit concession of the point.
odie:
A bot???? LMAO!! So I'm one of the programmed huh. Well I guess you just don't know me. Yes I am a Daytop Graduate but far from being programmed or a bot...lol. I said I wasn't going to debate the subject anymore on here but you declined my invitation. I'll just leave you with a few tidbits about the law ( gee do I know anything about law?....LMAO if you only knew) but anyways. Do you know who were the biggest lobbyists for HIPPA?....The insurance industry...but thats a whole different debate. You keep saying that patients mandated by the courts have no rights. We living under communist rule now? There may be consequences to the patient revoking consent in the case of being a criminal justice client but they have the right to do so . May records be used for criminal investigations or prosecutions? Yes, but only after a lengthy hearing process has taken place. Can the therapist initiate the hearing process? Yes, but its called a John Doe hearing for a reason so good luck and just remember if you initiate it and fails I doubt very much anyone else would ever trust to be your client again. Why I haven't responded sooner? Well I have a life and don't spend my whole day sifting through these posts. I'll be in New York in November, maybe we should have lunch. I'll even let you pay since I'm one of those programmed bots that probably makes measly money...LMAOROTF.
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
-- Ashleigh Brilliant
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Troll Control:
you never explained why you quoted the wrong title and part of the law. why did you do that and then not even admit it?
Anonymous:
Hey Dysfunction - re your beef with Anonymous on page 3. There seems to be a lot of confusing "laws" in America nowadays. (If the difference depends on what program is funded by which part of government, I hardly think this counts as a law!)
But I was just thinking. If you were a Catholic PRIEST... you couldn't tell anyone, even if a guy confessed to you to murder. You couldn't tell anyone - by the rules of your CHURCH - if they said they were GOING to murder someone... which correct me someone if I'm wrong, I think is the only situation in which it is commonly accepted that the "professional confidante", including therapist, has a duty to tell anyone, to prevent the loss of a life. I think that a Catholic priest might, and I mean *might*, say something in this situation - depending upon his own interpretation of the ethics involved.
It's not surprising to me that the authorities in America are trying to make it mandatory for people to tell on other people in all sorts of situations - it's a snitch society, and has become even more so since the "Homeland Security" act and other farces.
However, I BELIEVE that Catholic priests have been pressed to break the sanctity of the confessional before, in situations such as prisons, and they have always refused to do it. Just refused, point blank.
And I expect that they are so powerful as a worldwide organisation that no authority would really dare cross them by saying that they *have* to be snitches.
If I heard some shit like that in a "program", anyway, I would never tell. I simply don't believe in it. If you DO agree to tell things that people say to authority, you can never have the trust of the people you are trying to treat.
PS. This poster is not a Catholic, but I am interested in religion! I like novels with religious characters in them. (I don't count Miller Newton etc as men of faith, either!!)
Troll Control:
MHL ยง33.13(c)(9)(ii) With consent of appropriate Commissioner, patient information may be disclosed to persons and agencies needing information to locate missing persons or to governmental agencies in connection with criminal investigations.
This is a NYS LAW, not a "regulation." The fact that it "hardly seems like a law" to you is materially irrelevent.
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"which correct me someone if I'm wrong, I think is the only situation in which it is commonly accepted that the "professional confidante", including therapist, has a duty to tell anyone, to prevent the loss of a life."
Yes, you're wrong. Here's the correction: child abuse must be reported.
Your argument comparing a priest to a therapist is deeply, deeply flawed.
Hope that helps.
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