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Anonymous · « **Reply #435 on:** April 07, 2007, 04:22:28 PM »

So, Anon, it doesn't matter to you if ISAC investigated these allegations of yours and found them to be completely false?

That makes no sense.

Why can't you just accept the fact that Whitmore is closed and it's owner BANNED FOR LIFE from ever operating a program in Nephi, Utah?

:roll:

Anonymous · « **Reply #436 on:** April 07, 2007, 04:53:52 PM »

thats fine, their closed down, that should make alot of sick people very happy but i want everyone to know JOYCE HARRIS IS SCARED. SHE IS SCARED BECAUSE HE DAUGHTER CONFIDED IN THE KIDS AND MARK AND CHERYL ABOUT HOW JOYCE, HER MOTHER, BEAT HER. JOYCE FOUND OUT, GOT SCARED, RIPPED HER OUT OF THE WHITMORE WHICH WAS HER ONLY HOME AND BEGAN MAKING ALLIGATIONS AGAINST MARK AND CHERYL. now joyce has a band of followers. so the people on this website, make sure you know who truley is the sick twisted child abuser here. i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer. all i know is dont trust joyce harris, shes no better than the so called "tweeker and peekers" of the whitmore. this is alot deeper than it appears to be isnt it joyce?

Anonymous · « **Reply #437 on:** April 07, 2007, 10:56:50 PM »

Cheryl Sudweeks copped a plea in the criminal case of child abuse against her. That explains it rather clearly.
The Whitmore Academy is closed..

hanzomon4 · « **Reply #438 on:** April 07, 2007, 11:04:53 PM »

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thats fine, their closed down, that should make alot of sick people very happy but i want everyone to know JOYCE HARRIS IS SCARED. SHE IS SCARED BECAUSE HE DAUGHTER CONFIDED IN THE KIDS AND MARK AND CHERYL ABOUT HOW JOYCE, HER MOTHER, BEAT HER. JOYCE FOUND OUT, GOT SCARED, RIPPED HER OUT OF THE WHITMORE WHICH WAS HER ONLY HOME AND BEGAN MAKING ALLIGATIONS AGAINST MARK AND CHERYL. now joyce has a band of followers. so the people on this website, make sure you know who truley is the sick twisted child abuser here. i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer. all i know is dont trust joyce harris, shes no better than the so called "tweeker and peekers" of the whitmore. this is alot deeper than it appears to be isnt it joyce?

Are you yelling?

Are you a Sudweek? An unemployed Sudweek? ::roflmao::

I must be sick....

ZenAgent · « **Reply #439 on:** April 08, 2007, 01:58:59 PM »

Quote from: ""NONE""

woah, sounds like i hit a sensitive spot. maybe joyce should quit paying kids off to talk against mark and cheryl. maybe joyce should be honest about what happened when she got her daughter to come home. did she run and hug her daughter so happy that she finally has her because she was worried that "mark and cheryl-the beaters" had her? NO, or did she rather demand her to go home and when her daughter cried and said SHED RATHER STAY AT THE WHITMORE-joyce dragged her down the stairs BY HER HAIR, all the while her daughter crying and screamig in fear of her mother....lets talk about that.

and one little more thing to think about, who would you believe? a kid that doesnt wan to be in a program so badly that he will run awaya and say whatever in order to get out? or the person being accused. theres never been proof of these pathetic idiotic charges. there have been kids confusing they are gay in order to go home. of coarse someone will cry abuse if they think thats their ticket home. this is more sad than the salem witchcraft trails.

Wait a minute...I've been reading this intently, because it seems like these anons credit one woman with full responsibility for the closure of Whitmore. I want to know - how did she do it, and can I get a lesson from her?

You're saying that this mother barged into Whitmore, plowed through the place, grabbed her kid and left? What kind of security did Whitmore have? As much money as parents spent on tuition, you would expect some measures to be taken to prevent the random snatching of a child. If the girl was removed in such a brutal fashion, why didn't the Sudweeks file charges, considering the number of witnesses? Surely there is a police report somewhere, and since you seem to have access to a wealth of information regarding this "snatching", tell me where I need to go to read it. If Whitmore didn't file a complaint and press charges - well, the Sudweeks were negligent and not forthcoming with details of abuse.

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i am not into investigating and i dont care what the ISAC came up with, we know the truth, and WE KNOW what happened.

Yeah, it's obvious you don't investigate. You seem to shoot from the hip and disregard anything that goes against your overzealous support of the Sudweeks. Damn, Mark Sudweeks couldn't be trusted with horses, let alone kids.

Give me more information, because this isn't making sense. Also, prosecutors don't go to plea bargains if they don't have a strong case, they drop charges - look at Narvin Litchfield and Randall Hinton. No, a plea bargain is an ass-saving measure employed by the defendant's legal counsel. Next lesson - I'll explain libel laws and common knowledge.

ZenAgent · « **Reply #440 on:** April 08, 2007, 03:22:16 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

alot of big words there... i am not trying to out do you. i am just looking for justice and the only facts i know is what i saw, and joyce if you are reading this you should be getting nervous because you and i BOTH know the truth. i am not into investigating and i dont care what the ISAC came up with, we know the truth, and WE KNOW what happened. so just remember joycie, dont be so quick to judge, because your not so innocent yourself.

I know big words confuse you, so we'll keep it simple. I do investigate, and I've had some questions answered already. The parent didn't barge in, there was a police escort. No cop is going to watch a child being dragged by the hair down a staircase. There are even excerpts from a police report, no mention of anything like your story. Given the Bock case, I would think Sue and Izzasmell would tread carefully. Instead, they seem to be suffering from fatal hubris. One victory over a displaced housewife does not mean Sue can run roughshod over people with impunity. The disclaimer at the bottom of her blog shows she's not too confident. That disclaimer is as valid as Lon Woodbury's claim to own all postings on StrugglingTeens.

Keep going with this. Fornits thanks Izzy and Sue for their efforts to discredit and scandalize the troubled teen industry by behaving like...troubled adults.

Anonymous · « **Reply #441 on:** April 08, 2007, 08:57:17 PM »

You all do realize that this is Cheryl posting right?

Got her posting style all over it.

Anonymous · « **Reply #442 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:01:50 PM »

Also I heard this rumor that Cheryl and Mark now are joining the Fundamentalist Branch of the Latter Day Saints. Apparently they haven't had enough of the hair dragging so now they are going to get more young child brides in the family.

Anyone want to guess on how many wives mark will have before X-mas?

How many of them will be over the age of 15?

ZenAgent · « **Reply #443 on:** April 08, 2007, 11:49:02 PM »

Quote from: ""Guest""

You all do realize that this is Cheryl posting right?

Got her posting style all over it.

So it seems. Poor spelling, fragments, seething anger, and desperate for a scapegoat. Vent, Cheryl. We're laughing at you. I heard you're back in Canada, perhaps raising horses again? Wait, I forgot, your man Mark is banned from owning any animals in Canada due to the extreme neglect of your horses there. There's always Mexico...no, wait, you guys ran afoul of the law there, as well. I read over your criminal records and I don't see the wonderful, loving people Sue and Izzasmell describe.

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GOT SCARED, RIPPED HER OUT OF THE WHITMORE WHICH WAS HER ONLY HOME

Thinking of the Whitmore as a child's only home is terrifying, based on the accusations that led to Cheryl's plea bargain cop-out. How long was this young girl at Whitmore? I can't imagine it was for any great length of time, since her parents took the extreme measure of showing up with a police escort to free her.

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so the people on this website, make sure you know who truley is the sick twisted child abuser here. i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer.

There's only one person involved in this discussion proven to be a sick, twisted, child abuser, and that's Cheryl Sudweeks. Despite some EdCons misinformation, the Sudweeks are banned for life from opening another facility in Juab County, Utah, not a year. To quote County Attorney Jared Eldridge, "... it shuts her down, at least here in Juab County, so they can't do business here. I believe it effectively shuts them down in the state of Utah," According to ISAC, the mother who rescued her daughter followed the law and has documentation debunking your claims. You, on the other hand, have chaotic, inadmissible hearsay to defend Whitmore, a program shut down in shame.

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i am an ex-whitmore student and i know more than anyone on this site the first hand accounts of what happened. if anyone has any questions, id be glad to answer.

Who are you? Sign up and be an active Fornits participant, or no one will take you seriously. If you are a former Sudweeks student, you don't make a good case for the academic program at Whitmore, if they had one. Your knowledge of grammar, spelling, and sentence structure would embarrass a grade-school student.

I'm not familiar with the parent you're attacking. You seem to blame this mother not only for the charges that derailed Whitmore, but also for the animal abuse charges in Canada, the license hassles in Mexico, and at the rate you're going, you'll accuse her of assassinating Kennedy and masterminding 9/11. Methinks (you) doth protest too much.

One question: How's the child you claim was brutally ripped out of the Whitmore, "her only home"? I've been informed she's with her family and doing great. Not what you wanted to hear, huh? Why are you putting the girl's family through this? If the mother were as abusive as you say, surely it would have been proven by now . What has been proven is no child (or horse) should be entrusted to the "care" of the Sudweeks, regardless of Sue and Izzy's bizarre adoration for the Sudweeks, painting them as martyrs. Get real.

"Tis too starved an argument for my sword,"

Anonymous · « **Reply #444 on:** April 09, 2007, 09:24:27 AM »

I just heard another rumor:

Cheryl and Mark are going to be opening up another kiddie torture center, and Sue is going to be supply the kids for it. My guess is fucking izzawhore is gonna be pushing this new kiddie cesspit as well.

I also heard that Sue likes to eat Izzawhore's cunt when Izzawhore is on the rag. Jesus Sue do you really drink from the stream?

Anonymous · « **Reply #445 on:** April 09, 2007, 03:01:05 PM »

Quote from: ""NONE""

this is more sad than the salem witchcraft trails.

It's a witch hunt, alright, and it's over
"Ding, dong, the w(b)itch is gone,"[/i]

See you in hell, Cheryl.

Anonymous · « **Reply #446 on:** April 16, 2007, 01:31:59 AM »

just the other day i got off the fone with izzawhore and told her exactly what my punishment was one day. shut her right up!

After living at the Whitmore for over a year, I can say the only times I thought Whitmore to be my home was after they had convinced me that my parents hated me, my friends had forgotten me and I had no where to look but to "Cheryl's Help". When I got out my parents had no Idea of what went on and still don't. I Graduated BARELY no thanks to bullshit credits, and I just feel bad for the kids who are still believing in Cheryl.

Everyone who comes onto this website must realize that no matter what we were all forged together and the kids there, like it or not, made a sick an twisted family where we were all brothers and sisters. Cheryl was the Mom and Mark was the dad and you either liked em' or hated em' but thats all you could do about it.

Now they are fucked because they let it get too out of hand, and It is all over with. They have no program anymore, so what else is there to fuss about? Compensation? Admission to Guilt? I don't see it coming very soon.

ConstentGardener · « **Reply #447 on:** April 16, 2007, 11:15:37 AM »

>just the other day i got off the fone with izzawhore and told her exactly what my punishment was one day. shut her right up! <

What did you tell her? Might be nice to know what she is willing to over look for the sake of PURITY.

Anonymous · « **Reply #448 on:** April 16, 2007, 12:31:35 PM »

IZZY quotes an ex-Whitmore Student in her Whitmore Blog:
"this student no longer was asking that the blog be taken down. He said he too had some good times, and that he at times, just wanted to be home.

BUT, IZZY ends this blog by saying:
"Cheryl Sudweeks' plea agreement ordered her not to operate a program for children for one year in Juab County."

THIS IT TOTALLY INCORRECT:

Cheryl Sudweeks ABEYANCE AGREEMENT STATES: page 2
That Cheryl Sudweeks shall not operate or be involved in any capacity with any PROGRAM offering services of any kind to CHILDREN within the boundaries of JUAB COUNTY, UTAH "for the remainder of the DEFENDANT'S NATURAL LIFE."

IF Izzy can not even get this plea agreement correct.
Why believe she quoted this ex-student at Whitmore correctly?

Anonymous · « **Reply #449 on:** April 23, 2007, 03:21:47 PM »

Although she took exactly what she wanted from what I told her, I did tell her that I did have some good times. I also told her that at other times I had believed that Cheryl was incredibly mentally unstable and that she should not have been running a boarding school, hence my ridiculous, unsafe, embarassing, and demeaning punishments.

She does not care about the children, she cares about making Cheryl look good because she is

1. Being paid
2. Been brainwashed just like all of us had been at some point to believe that Cheryl really is a "god send" to troubled teens.

Fuck you izzy for taking my words out of contact. And fuck you Cheryl for not choking on your mothers Umbilical cord in the womb.

And also, fuck you Mark for being a pussy whipped bitch and not stepping in when you knew things weren't right.

And fuck BREK because he's a spoiled rotten bitch.

But I love the rest of their family.

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