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Pure aka http://www.helpyourteens.com? Good idea or bad idea

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Antigen:
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FaceKhan:
I think also you are forgetting that the primary impetus for the people running most of these programs is money and in some cases power over others. Therefore it does not matter whether they break the person in 1 day or 2 years they still will insist that they are not cured until the money runs out. When the parents have blown the college fund, taken out a 3rd mortgage and have a hefty tax debt and they can't pay anymore then their kids are elevated up the program ladder as quickly as possible and encouraged to leave.

Leah:
When searching for a program for my child, I contacted PURE.  What I found out was that yes, the service is free.  
The catch~~  They ONLY refer to programs that pay them $$ for each kid that admits.  I found out anywhere from $400 to $2000 per kid.  
How can they make impartial suggestions, with the child and family in mind, if they only send them to a paying program.  Seems warped to me.
After checking into the programs they told me about, only 1 seemed even remotely close to helping my son.  I did NOT choose any of their programs.
There has got to be someplace (Ed Con. or referral service) where the fee is inexpensive, service is good and the suggestions impartial.  
Since my neighbors and friends know that my son went to a wilderness program, I keep getting calls from folks that want help.  I don't have anywhere to send them too.  Any suggestions? :question:  :question:

FaceKhan:
Unfortunately few if any of these fad programs are anything more than frauds, scams and cults. None of them are proven effective, and most are mainly in it for the money. Non-profit does not mean that no one is profiting from it.

If someone asks just tell them that these programs are useless at best and dangerously abusive at worst, and that they should stick to traditional therapy.

When it comes to educational consultants, I don't think they should accept money from anyone but the parents themselves. If the parents can't afford to pay for the consultant, I doubt they can afford any of these high priced programs either. When they take referral fees or have specific program affiliations then that is a conflict of interest that is just not acceptable.


PURE, while it may be rabidly anti-WWASP which is certainly a plus for them, is disconcerting to me and represents yet another attempt for a kinder gentler abusive program industry.

The problem is that parents and facility operators, almost none of which have the qualification to diagnose addiction, or psychological problems can just lock a kid up indefinitely. What really needs to change is that juveniles need the right to a committment hearing before being forced into any mental health facility or long term "therapy".

Anonymous:
I spent about 18 months in one of these "boot-camps" ages 13-15, outside of Palestine Tx. Out in the friggin' middle of the woods! Same principle, a back to basics theme, 'Behavior Modification' for troubled teens. No privacy. At night when we were confined to our tents after dark, we shared 1 pot on a stump for #1 and #2.(shitting and pissing) We had chore charts, and we all rotated daily so everyone got a chance to clean those.  What's with these places? I believe this one is still open, almost 20 years later. The intakes were sectioned off into tribes( age grouping). There was more expectation of hard labor ie; cutting down and scinning trees to build the structures we lived in, digging a 6ft. hole in the ground then building a toilet on top and supplying us with lie powder to dump down after we went to kill the maggots!!! Long hikes, carrying loads of laundry or supplies...for 18 months. We would be taken by buses back home for 2 days a month. In between my stay there, my mom found out my step- brother had been raping me. I stayed. My step dad became termially ill with cancer. I stayed. You didn't go in phases you were just recognized by time. He died shortly after I was released. My real dad died about 9 months before I was sent there, in 1984. Before then is another post altogether.
After that one failed with me, my mom sent me to Straight inc. I turned 16 and 17 in there. I missed all the fundamental and school years, I didnt have the confidence to even try college after Straight. The mental dammage is the worst, by the time you are telling anyone you're nuts. Embarking apon years of therapy can be frustrating and fruitless, it's up to me to find what works now. That's a blessing alone.

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