Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
Council says NO to Kemper proposal
Anonymous:
Damn, these guys get around don't they?
Randall Hinton, Justin Neilson, Brian Lemmons
http://www.teenhelponline.com/staff.html
Anonymous:
Anonymous-
And at least we could threaten misbehaving children, "Straighten up, or I?ll send you to Kemper."
The fact that a human being can write that they must threaten their child is the WORST parent i have evern heard of, why not love your child and respect them, Ive been tho the program, and i have my beliefs about it....definilty not all positive....but to resort to threatening your own children, i hope you dont have kids...and if you do, ill pray for their saqnity, and their well being, because it obviously wont come from you!!!
Anonymous:
that quote struck me the same way. How dare a parent try to threaten their children with placement. It's funny, ever since I can remember, my parents always used to say "behave or we'll bring you to the orphanage, stop acting crazy or we'll commit you to the mental hospital, shape up or we'll send you to boot camp" Mind you, I was a child, I'm talkin like 5 at the time... I heard it so often I just assumed they were bluffing... They weren't =P
BuzzKill:
I don't see this as a short cut - From my point of view - it is more a matter of last ditch efforts to get a dangerously wayward teen under control.
Most of the program parents I know (myself included) tried one ineffective thing after another, in an attempt to parent their child.
If the teen is in open rebellion, then nothing done at home by the family is going to do a bit of good. From the parent's perspective - they (I) feel/felt that they are responsible for the teen's safety. If they find nothing else is effecting a change in the dangerous behavior of their teen, they are prime candidates for these programs - because they do become desperate; and very afraid of what the future might bring if they don't intervene.
IMO - the common behavior of running away is what sends parents looking for lock down, or remote situations. You are looking for a situation the kid can't run away from.
And once again I feel the need to point out - the parents have no idea that these programs are what they are. They are lied to an manipulated by these programs in a very effective manner. Andin the case of many, the parent programming is also very real and effective.
People like to argue parents are at fault for not "doing their homework". OK. But I know in my case, I thought I had. I still don't know what more I could've done. And too, if you have no idea that such abuses ever take place, you don't know what to look for or what to be suspicious of. I never in my wildest dreams could have imagined OP, or even the no talking rules.
I will go on to say tho - that the situation has improved greatly, as far as information readily available on the net. Googling now, will bring up sites with information that was just not available a couple or three years ago.
For this I am very grateful - and its why I am so supportive of the work ISAC has done. They are an absolutely invaluable resource.
But back to the subject at hand - For the most part, the parents are not and looking for short cuts. Sure, some are no count, and just want to get the kid out of the way - but most really do love their kids and want desperately to see them healthy and happy and safe and sound. The programs are their last "best" effort.
Its really sad that their love for their kids is so effectively exploited by the evil of these programs.
BuzzKill:
Why do they threaten the kid with a program?
I'd guess in most cases in the futile hope that the treat alone will effect enough change that they won't have to worry so much.
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