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Anonymous:
Boy, SPEAKINGOUT, are you ever "special"---at least in your own mind!!! You're going to tell me what is means to be a parent: I don't think so!

Get this--my kids would see your raving and your so-called "responsibility taking" and your rants about what it is a parent as a pathetic joke.  A weak stupid person on a crusade to justify him/herself.

Disgusting.

They would see you as a joke--like I do--- and like any clear thinking person would.
 
What "special" knowledge do you have--you don't, you know---it's just your limited little interpretations of circumstances that anyone with a little more smarts and some sense of responsibility is likely to see completely differently.


I tell you---being a parent is tough sometimes, sometimes it means making really hard decisions, and we've made them and we've stood by them and we're happy with them.

So do what you like in your own pathetic family--you are so full of it about Child Protection and about anything else you try to pass off as knowledge--I don't know why I'm even bothering to argue with a fool like you

I say to Nemo and other parents who stepped up to the plate and did what they had to do: GOOD FOR YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING A LOVING PARENT AND MAKING THE HARD CHOICES.  You'll reap the rewards

And for the whiney losers like SPEAKINGOUT--you'll reap your own consequences, that much is clear--just remember--when you fail with your kids there's not much left to succeed at.

Anonymous:
Thank you very much for you supportive comments.

You are right, this website is basically the land of the losers.  Everyone is a fashionable victim.  I have never seen a former boot camp attendee ever write about just what self-destructive (and almost certainly illegal) behavior caused their parents to send them off.  They are all victims.  Come on now gang, be men (or women).  Stand up for your own self-destructive choices and actions.  Admit that most of you were drug abusers (probably still are) and that you could not control yourselves.  

No, no one wants to own up to his or her teen-ager behavior.  If you read the posts, sound something along the lines of this:  I was a good (well, mostly good) teen.  One day I was walking home from school and was abducted by space aliens. They kidnapped me and took me to this awful place called boot camp...."

The most candor one finds is when someone says they were "doing teenage stuff", which one will "grow out of".  That comment seems to encompass such "stuff" as drug use/dealing, violent behavior, rebellion against parental authority, running away, drunkenness, failing school, etc.  A good truth-in-posting-rule would require each poster to honestly state the actions and choices he or she made that caused his or her parents to spend their hard earned money in attempt to save their child.

Some posters, such as Ginger, required two trips.  Ginger, why did you not give up drugs the first go-around?  

The answers back are all the same:  Quack, quack, quack -- if you support any boot camp program you are a child abuser -- quack, quack, give-me-another-joint, quack, quack, etc.

From what the parents write, the biggest problem seems to be they took their kids out too soon.  So, parents, are you happy now with your teens?  Are they back on drugs?  Do you sleep well at night when they are out?  Do they sound like Devlin?

What kills you victims out their in Frontisland is when people like us write about how the book camp worked for our kids.  It just highlights that you failed.  Failed utterly.  Failed completely.  And that in those dark moments of your loneliness, when one drug is wearing off and the other has yet to take effect (sound familiar Ginger?) you realize, despite all of your claims of "abuse" and "torture", that you are failures:  you failed as teens and now fail as adults.  Now, in that desperate search for meaning, the search that gives you some glimmer to live for, you must attack the vary programs that might have saved you from your current oblivion.

And so, you all meet up each evening.  You convince yourselves that your are victims (thus not responsible for your own behavior) and rile against those who have saved their children from your fate.  And then, when you log off your computer and pass by the mirror, you look at yourself and know the truth...

Fondest Regards, Nemo

Anonymous:
There are a few grads that try to post about the good things that the program did for them and how they never saw abuse and torture, like Perri, and Amanda.  However, people like that don't stay around long because of the abuse they receive here.  The Fornits regulars refuse to believe that anyone could possibly have been helped since they were not or would not be helped.  It is a shame that more satisfied customers don't find out about this site and let parents know that everything the regulars post here is not true.  But...then again...those are the ones that go on with their lives are successful and don't have time to do this everyday.  I try to visit here periodically to encourage those that get bashed by the nay sayers.  Don't get fed up and leave, just keep encouraging!  Often distressed, hopeless parents end up here looking for help.  Unfortunately what they receive here is more discouragement and abuse.  Buzzkill seems to be pretty sharp about the industry and balanced on both sides, however doesn't post as much as the destructive foul mouthed ones.

tlcrescue:
u know...it is not very kind to make general statements about "all" the parents.  I dont believe I have said anything derogatory about you in any of my posts.

That being said.  My son does NOT come on these boards because I wont allow him to.  He has been through enough and surely does not need to read the types of posts people like you put on here, such derogatory statements about people you know nothing about.  What purpose would that possibly serve?

Thayer worked for your children?  Great, fantastic!  But that doesn't excuse the fact that it is harmful to many.

I have repeatedly said that my son specifically said that while many, many students are abused at Thayer, not all the students are.  I have NEVER said that each and every student was abused!  I simply said that MY son was, and that my son witnesed the abuse of many others, meanwhile, there were a few that WERE NOT abused.

I post the reality, yet you want to throw around names and unsubstantiated slurs?  That is fine with me, because when people DO come on here to read these boards and gather information, they will see your antics and not put any faith into your statements.

AND, for the record, I was contacted by a private investigator who had been hired by some parents to check into Thayer before they sent their child there.  I also put him in touch with other parents, some that were happy with the program, some who were not.  I felt that the parents needed to hear it from all sides and make their own informed decision.  After hearing stories from both sides, what do you think they chose to do?  They chose not to send their child there becuase they felt the risks of abuse/neglect or even death outweighed the possible positive outcome.

And...btw...you can post on here under a made up username instead of a brown paper bag...it does not reveal your identity.[ This Message was edited by: tlcrescue on 2005-05-06 07:35 ]

Anonymous:
Dear Losers,

I cannot for the life of me comprehend the utter abhorrence that you all have inflicted against me for each of my phenomenal posts.  I mistakenly anticipated that uneducated failures such as yourselves would be thoroughly impressed and awed by my spectacular utilization of spell-check and a thesaurus.  I am distressed that I have spent such substantial time away from the websites I usually frequent during the day when my wife is at work.  I have taken great care to make sure that each post really elucidates the type of intelligence that I believe myself to possess.  

I suppose I was arguing merely to appease myself.  While I believe my posts to be great and magnificent, I am wee where it counts.  You see, pointing out the poor spelling and grammar of others made me feel long and wide, but only in my mind.  Perhaps if I humbly exit this forum, I will have the time to respond to all those emails I get that promise to address my true problem.

Fondest Regards, Nemo

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