Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Thayer Learning Center
My Son At Thayer
Cayo Hueso:
You're still not addressing many of the points brought up in this thread.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#96845
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#96890
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#97238
I'm having a hard time with the fact that someone could be so cruel to dismiss a child's death as just an unfortunate occurance. Its posts like yours that occasionally make me want to just throw my hands up and say FUCK IT. For you to be aware of what has gone on in that place and then to say you don't care how it works, you're just happy to have yourself a nice, quiet child creature is fucking appalling! You're OK with kids getting abused as long as the end result meets your needs. I really don't have a witty comeback for that. It just scares the living shit out of me.
For twenty years I felt like I couln't really condemn the abusive program I was in because, after all I did get myself into some trouble as a teen. I unfortunately was surrounded by people who did and still do buy into your way of thinking..."it saved her life, she was on her way to jail, who knows what would have become of her" etc. etc. and I bought into it at least to some degree (probably greater than I'm willing to admit) for a long time. Give your son time, I don't think he'll have the same view of things as the years pass. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
--Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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Anonymous:
Your program did not work for you. I accept that completely. I am not trying to convince you that it did.
I need you to define abuse. A lot of physical excercise and discipline is not abuse for me. No one ever struck my son or tied him up.
What you need to accept is that the Thayer program (it is the ONLY one I have experienc with -- and by your postings it is clear you have no direct experience) worked for my son and for the Cruella's daughter.
What you know about Thayer is at best 2nd hand --probably 8th hand -- by the time you get it.
I know it is not what you want to hear. And, reading comprehension is low on this board -- but the fact is the Thayer program is what some kids need. If you were not blinded by your own unfortunate experiences, perhaps you could accept this.
Cptnemo
Antigen:
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What you need to accept is that the Thayer program (it is the ONLY one I have experienc with -- and by your postings it is clear you have no direct experience) worked for my son and for the Cruella's daughter.
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What you should accept (for your kids' sake, not your own) is that the risk benefit ratio is about the same as throwing them off of a high cliff. In fact, the very basic method is about like that.
If you shove someone off a cliff, you show them, in no uncertain terms, that you're fed up and don't particularly care whether they get hurt or not. In most cases, they will get injured, but usually they'll recover (more or less). The trauma of injury and recovery from it will sometimes build character. But, more often, they'll just be injured and, hopefully work around it.
One thing's for sure, though. If they survive and if you ever see them again, they'll damned sure not do whatever it was that so set you off before you shoved them over the cliff. At least, they won't do it in front of you.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
--Unanimous
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Anonymous:
Ginger dear, the question is: Do you have any 1st hand information regarding Thayer? Exactly what is the source of your "knowledge"?
I think anyone posting should inform the others of just where their information comes from.
So, Ginger, let us know....
Cptnemo
Antigen:
I have exactly the same firsthand experience w/ the Thayer program as you do, Nemo. Neither you nor I have ever been in that program. Never forced to excercise till past the point of exhaustion. Never tackled for daring to look a sgt in the eye. Never had to wash the shit and puke off of a fellow student to clean him up for his trip to the hospital for declaraion.
http://www.stjoenews-press.com/main.asp ... M=65313.28
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/11396902.htm
http://isaccorp.org/thayer/thayerlawsuit.pdf
http://isaccorp.org/thayer/parentswantclosure.pdf
http://www.showmenews.com/2005/Feb/20050206News011.asp
http://semissourian.rustcom.net/story/160546.html
I know what the spinmeisters are saying. I've seen the stock response; "don't believe anything you read in the papers." But guess what? The paper said it would snow here last Sunday and I'll be damned if it didn't snow here last Sunday!
What seems more plausible to you, Nemo? That all these different kids, parents, doctors, law enforcement investigators, journalists, fact checkers and lawyers are all involved in a grand conspiracy to... what, make you look stupid? Or that the people at Thayer are hurting children and lying their asses off to cover it up?
How do YOU explain the "miraculous" turn about in these kids?
Faith is believing something you know ain't true.
--Samuel Clemens "Mark Twain", American author and humorist
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