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My Son At Thayer
Watchaduen:
Honest question, if your son was soooo bad, completely defiant against all adult authority, and next step was prison. How did Thayer help your son without ever beating or torturing him? He seen others beaten so he knew it could happen to him? What made your son get up out of that bed every morning at the crack of dawn to do exercises for a few hours? A drill instructor screaming in his face? Why do I doubt that.
In the summer of 2003 the State of Miss. raided Bethel Boys Academy and removed 13 "visibly" abused boys. These boys did NOT get a choice whether they wanted to leave or not. Other boys who were being abused wanted to leave, but since there were no current visible signs - no go. The state takes these boys into custody and their parents are called. Immediately all the parents come rushing down to Miss. The boys are to remain in custody until the following Tuesday, when they will testify in George County Youth Court. One Dad is furious that his son was removed from Bethel. Now mind you, his son was strangled by a drill instructor and his neck reflects just that (horrible bruising). No matter, his Dad is mad, his Dad wanted him at Bethel because he needed "help". His Dad was angry that he had to miss work to get his son and demanded that the state release his child immediately. I talk to this Dad enroute home with his son (back to the state they live in). This Dad states his son wasn't really abused and his son hasn't said much. Hmmmmmm, wonder why? Move ahead a month and the boy is now living with his Mom. Dad just wants him sent to another torture chamber. This boy does have a long list of abuse and torture that he suffered at Bethel Boys Academy.
Could this Dad be the same kind of Dad you are?
Anonymous:
Your posting was one of the very few intelligent ones I have read.
You pose a very good question. Just why did my son get up in the morning, excercise for hours, accept the discipline and come out OK.
By the way, he tells me he was never abused. Yelled at, made to excercies for hours, not allowed to speak unless spoken to...yes that was part of his program. But he was never struck or hit in any manner.
But back to your question, why did Thayer turn him around? I really can't say nor can he. For the first 3 months he "held his breath" hoping that Mom & Dad would come for him.
Slowly he turned around. The petulant teen-ager become more reflective and serious.
There is no brain washing going on at Thayer. In fact, there is no therapy in the standard sense of the word. The therapy is excercise and discipline, with a quick connection between actions and consequences. They did listen to some taped lectures about the lives of famous people, but that was about it.
Our family is not religious. They said prayers before meals. That was about the only religion our son reports. There was certainly no attempt to convert him to a religion.
Again, I cannot comment on your son's exeriences nor the organization you sent him to. My only comments regard Thayer, and Thayer alone.
My wife and I speak to our son daily. We see himm often. He is doing just fine. He received an acacemic scholarship to a university and is pulling down straight "A's".
But back to your question, why did it work for him? In the end, it is all about choices. I think that during his stay at Thayer he decided that the life he had briefly led -- an armed drug dealer -- was not the life he wanted. Also, the fact the police showed up hours after he left for Thayer was a strong reality check for him.
What Thayer did is put him in a controlled environment of relentless excercise and strict discipline which allowed this process of maturity to take place. Why did it work on him and not others? I just don't know, and I am glad it did.
Cptnemo
Antigen:
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Why did it work on him and not others? I just don't know, and I am glad it did.
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So fuck the kids who are hurt by it? Answer me. What is the essential difference between the Thayer way of breaking a person down and any of the other methods that I have suggested as comparisons?
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence.
--Charles Austin Beard
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Anonymous:
Ginger: I think you left your program too soon. Do you think they will take you back? I will offer a scholarship for you. Cptnemo
Antigen:
That's your answer? I need a little more brainwashing to bring me in line w/ your way of thinking? :roll:
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John Adams
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