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My Son At Thayer
Anonymous:
Honestly...I really hope it won't take 5 years for the brainwashing to wear off!!! Hopefully it will be sooner.
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I vaguely remember you.
So your kid is in college?
Wait.
In 5 or so years when the brainwashing wears off, you're gonna have hell to pay.
What goes around comes around. You deserve it.
Julie
--- End quote ---
001010:
I've heard from exit counselors that it takes three, and that's about what it took for me. However, it took me 18 years to then truly deal with it and move beyond the mental torment... And I needed years of therapy.
:idea: It's called raising your kid yourself.
hanzomon4:
I've been looking in to TBS like Thayer, WWASP, and others for the past year and believe me the damage done to these kids is very real and complex. Nemo, your son may appear to be doing well but like others have said it will take sometime for him to come to terms with his experience. If you are a loving parent please be willing to take what many survivors are saying seriously, and be willing to listen to your son and offer him support if he comes to you to speak about his Thayer experience.
If any of you feel attacked at this site vist the isaccorp's website . It has great documentation and you can read up on many facilities like Thayer. One thing you'll notice is that the abuse claims are all very similar, across time and facilities. Many of the facilities use the same kinds of tactics. Even the death's that occur happen under similar circumstances and the following excuses are usually given.
[*]"it was an accident"
[*]"he/she was unhealthy"
[*]"she was in the wrong program"
[*]"he never complained of any problem"[/list] Look at Martian Lee Anderson, if his beating wasn't caught on tape his death would have fallen under the same accuses. It's sad that it took a "video taped" death to cause Florida to rethink it's bootcamp system. However it seems that this kind of proof is the only thing the Government and parents(like yourself) will believe.
Someone made the comment that one death is not reason enough to shutdown the "teen-help" industry, and that any problems can be fixed. I'm sorry but the ones who keep fighting independent oversight is the teen-help industry. They are the ones who hire untrained staff. They are the ones who use fraudulent business practices to get kids in to their programs. The teen-help industry don't want it fixed because they are making good money with the current system. Also death is not the only bad outcome, ptsd is very common amongst kids who end up in places like Thayer. Suicide and drug use are other pitfalls many survivors face. Ptsd-related to stays in TBS may not make the headlines, but the impact on the survivor and their family is great.. even greater then death, because the dead don't scream at night, they don't have flash backs of abuse and humiliation, the dead don't try to kill themselves because they're in pain that no one acknowledges.
Believe me and the people here when we say that the teen-help industry sees your children as commodities, money wrapped in flesh.
Anonymous:
umm I just happened to read a statement advising us not to say Robert was MURDERED. Well, if ya want to sue me go for it. I am happy to get a group of survivors together, decent staff, some forensic experts, etc who can back me up on this.
robert was worked to death. He was MURDERED
I SAY IT
Wanna sue me? I have enough $ to defend myself quite well, and I welcome the opprotunity to draw attention to the MURDER of robert reyes and thusly "force" the authorities to put you, Bundies and staff - the MURDERERS- in prison for the rest of your life.
just supeona my IP address, hunt me down (it will cost alot of $ for you do that :D )
and sue
have fun in prison! MURDERERS OF ROBERT REYES
Anonymous:
umm I just happened to read a statement advising us not to say Robert was MURDERED. Well, if ya want to sue me go for it. I am happy to get a group of survivors together, decent staff, some forensic experts, etc who can back me up on this.
robert was worked to death. He was MURDERED
I SAY IT
Wanna sue me? I have enough $ to defend myself quite well, and I welcome the opprotunity to draw attention to the MURDER of robert reyes and thusly "force" the authorities to put you, Bundies and staff - the MURDERERS- in prison for the rest of your life.
just supeona my IP address, hunt me down (it will cost alot of $ for you do that :D )
and sue
have fun in prison! MURDERERS OF ROBERT REYES
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