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My Son At Thayer
Antigen:
Nah, bullshit. It's not just the fact that this one kid (that we know of) died while attending Thayer. You should read up on the investigation. The circumstances which brough about his death were 1) horrendous and 2) likely still extant at Thayer.
They tortured that boy. Not only that, they coerced other inmates to take part in the torture and death of that boy.
You're a damned fool if you don't know the details. It's all quite public and easily knowable. And your kid will figure that out sooner or later.
Step 1. We came to understand that the government is powerless over people's private use of drugs and that the War on Drugs was making the government's life unmanageable.
--Scott Tillinghast
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tlcrescue:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-13 11:20:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Its a horrorable thing that one person has died at this school, but the missing piece is how many have been saved!!! If the school did not exist how many would be dead -- none? 5 ??? 10 ?? Try to determine the cause of that childs death and try to change it. Education, training, policy change overseeing, staffing, new model etc. Shutting down the entire Auto industry isnt a solution to saving people from dieing in auto accidents, They make Ambulances too. "
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they key word here being "accident". You cannot possibly compare an auto accident to abuse. Besides, if someone drives a car negligently and causes an "accident", why should the auto manufacturer be held liable?
Try another comparative to get your point across, because that one just doesn't fly.
And, to all you anons, why do you not register and provide your contact info? You praise this place, yet don't say who you are? Those of us against this type of abuse have no problem providing our information to show we are legit.
TheWho:
I guess my point is more comparative data is needed. To say someone died from neglect at a TBS has no substance !!! A lot of people care but what should be done? What is the cause? The counselor, the school? Is this an isolated case? How about the football coach who sends a slow halfback around the track one more time in 90 degree heat and he dies. Is 1 too many? Should we shut the football programs down? Close the schools? What we should be looking at is how many kids are dieing at TBS vs high schools or kids that run away and end up dead. How many kids will die if the parents/system sit back and do nothing?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-09-27 10:32:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I guess my point is more comparative data is needed. To say someone died from neglect at a TBS has no substance !!! A lot of people care but what should be done? What is the cause? The counselor, the school? Is this an isolated case? How about the football coach who sends a slow halfback around the track one more time in 90 degree heat and he dies. Is 1 too many? Should we shut the football programs down? Close the schools? What we should be looking at is how many kids are dieing at TBS vs high schools or kids that run away and end up dead. How many kids will die if the parents/system sit back and do nothing?"
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This is the oldest and most lame argument used by the pro-teen help industry.
Yes, one death if caused by abuse, neglect, exploitation and/or victimization is one too many.
These are NOT ACCIDENTS.
You would know that if you didn't have your head stuck up your progamized ass.
I'm sorry, but you are not doing families or kids any favors by falsifying the truth about the teen help industry which is grossly under-regulated and rife with allegations of abuse, and fatalities caused by criminal negligence.
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TheWho:
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Yes, one death if caused by abuse, neglect, exploitation and/or victimization is one too many.
These are NOT ACCIDENTS.
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Okay so we found common ground, back to the football coach who victimizes the kid, forces him to run around the track in 90 heat while the rest of the kids take showers and he dies:
Based on your logic we should shut all the schools down or stop playing football in the U.S.
I feel we should address root cause and start by punishing the coach. It wouldnt be fair to all the kids who have good coaches and benifit from the game
Next, start putting oversight in place to prevent this from reoccurring. But to just shut everything down !!! Come on !!!! That will never fly in a million years and you will just lose credability for waving that flag. Try being proactive, constructing and try to push for improvements, oversight etc.
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