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Anonymous:
Good for Tori, then.  It should then be easy for any authority to reach her for a statement, or any court appearance requiremnts. And the military legal department will be able to instruct her on the grave penalty of lying under oath.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-03-30 19:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hello everyone.

What happened to Joey? The same thing he did to his own family- bit the hand that tried to help him. He took drugs, got drunk, tried to hurt himself, and when we tried to stop him he ran away crying abuse. I have known him and his family since I was born. We are from Simi Valley California and our families are close- so I am a good source of his issues- lying and confusion.

I love Erica and Joey. I love Cheryl and Mark. Both sides are so separated now by misconception that no matter what I say both opinions are ultimately met.

*Tori*"

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THERE YOU HAVE IT.......WONDER IF TORI IS STILL OF THE SAME OPINION???.....PROBABLY NOT....

Antigen:

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On 2005-03-30 19:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

What happened to Joey? The same thing he did to his own family-

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Does anybody think this is an acceptable way to deal w/ rebellious or troubled kids? If so, let me let you in on a little secret. There's a far cheaper way to get exactly the same effect. Instead of shipping your kid off to some little self proclaimed self help cult in another state, just encourage your kid to join a local gang. Same mindfuck, same tactics, just closer to home and free of charge.

A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trust either of them
P.J. O'Rourke
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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-07-04 12:30:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2005-03-30 19:24:00, Anonymous wrote:


What happened to Joey? The same thing he did to his own family-


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Does anybody think this is an acceptable way to deal w/ rebellious or troubled kids? If so, let me let you in on a little secret. There's a far cheaper way to get exactly the same effect. Instead of shipping your kid off to some little self proclaimed self help cult in another state, just encourage your kid to join a local gang. Same mindfuck, same tactics, just closer to home and free of charge.


A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trust either of them
P.J. O'Rourke
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Not a very constructive remark...

Antigen:
No? Why not? I think it's an intrigueing question. What is the important difference between a local chapter of, say, the Bloods or a neonazi gang and one of these newage treatment groups?

Legality? No, neither one has much respect for the law. Integrity? Doesn't look like it. Neither one is particularly attached to the objective truth. True belief? Nope, strike three. Gangs seduce members by exactly the same means as treatment cults do; they convince them that they have big, big trouble from some outside influence and that they must unite to survive. Gang members are true believers too. Why else would they risk their very lives and commit murder for their cause?

Ah! There's one important difference! When treatment cults become murderous, they generally either go out in a blaze like the Branch Davidians or Synanon or they emmigrate to some wilder region like, say, Jim Jones' People's Temple Revival. Say, what ever happened to the Mexican part of the Whit program, anyway?



Neither in my private life nor in my writings, have I ever made a secret of being an out-and-out unbeliever.
--Sigmund Freud, Austrian-born psychologist
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