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« on: March 30, 2005, 06:15:00 PM »
Give consideration to a class action suit against Roloff Ministries.  We could get something for ourselves while fucking bankrupting them.  They'd be out of the abuse business while having to give something to us.

Does anyone know how to go about something like this?

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2005, 06:51:00 PM »
Are Roloff Ministries still around?

I went to Victory Christian Academy in Florida.  (VCA is not a Roloff, but uses the same methods and the owner, Mike Palmer, hearts Roloff 4 eva.)  I'd really like to see a class action suit against the school, the Florida Association of Christian Child-Caring Agencies (who "accredits" the FL Jesus-based behavior modification programs), and the State of Florida for violating the Equal Protection rights of the program participants by allowing the homes to operate unregulated.

But, you know, who the hell wants to represent a bunch of "druggies 'n whores" against the good Christian folks who run these hellholes?
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 08:05:00 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2005, 01:14:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture

Torture
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Torture is the infliction of severe physical or psychological pain as an expression of cruelty, a means of intimidation, deterrent or punishment, or as a tool for the extraction of information or confessions. Sometimes torture is practiced even when it appears to have little or no functional purpose beyond the gratification of the torturer or because it has become the norm within the context.

Torture is an extreme violation of human rights. Signatories of the Third Geneva Convention agree not to commit torture under certain circumstances in wartime, and signatories of the UN Convention Against Torture agree to not commit certain specific forms of torture. These conventions and agreements notwithstanding, it is estimated by organisations such as Amnesty International that around 2/3 of countries do not consistently abide by the spirit of such treaties. Realistically, torture or similar techniques have been a tool of many states throughout history and for many states they remain so (when expedient and desired, and often unofficially) today.


Current legal status of torture:

On December 10, 1948 the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly. Article 5 states "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_abuse

Physical abuse is abuse involving contact intended to cause pain, injury, or other physical suffering.

Basic forms include:

striking
punching
pushing, pulling
pinching
kicking
having someone fall
strangling
keeping the head under water
sleep deprivation
exposure to cold, freezing
exposure to heat or radiation, burning
exposure to electric shock
placing in "stress positions" (tied or otherwise forced)
cutting or otherwise exposing somebody to something sharp
exposure to a dangerous animal
throwing or shooting a projectile
exposure to a toxin
infecting with a disease


Humiliation of one person by another is often used as a way of asserting power over others, and is a common form of oppression or abuse. Humiliation of others is generally motivated by sadism. Many punishments are deliberately designed to be humiliating

Humiliation, as in the 2004 Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse, may include (also in combinations):

forced nudity
forced cross-dressing
rape, other forced sex (including forced masturbation) or forced simulation of sex
forced watching of nudity and/or sex
being kept on a dog leash
being hooded (reason may be the humiliation, but also avoiding that the victim can see and identify the other person and the location)
being ridiculed
Physical abuse is, in addition to the physical damage, also humiliating, as is intimidation. Rape may, in addition to being humiliating, cause physical damage,



Dehumanization is a process by which members of a group of people assert the "inferiority" of another group through subtle or overt acts or statements.

Methods of dehumanization
A common theme is that of scapegoating, where dehumanizing the target provides a release from guilt for the person that scapegoats them, who typically begins to see themselves as a victim of the dehumanized person, rather than as a potential oppressor.

on Whipping : Its us for Disciplinary use, and torture

Flogging is an approximate synonym that was probably derived from flagellum in the British navy, where flogging was a common disciplinary measure that became associated with a seaman's manly disregard for pain.

Flagellation probably originated in the Near East, but quickly spread throughout the ancient world. In Sparta, young men were flogged as a test of their manliness. The Jews limited flagellation to forty strokes, and in practice delivered forty strokes minus one, so as to avoid any possibility of breaking this law due to a miscount. Additionally they would have a doctor monitor the punishment, who would stop it if it became too much for the person to safely bear.

Flagellation (whippings)  was the customary method (among other methods of torture) to ensure discipline and obedience of slaves

Corporal punishment
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Corporal punishment is the deliberate infliction of pain intended as correction or punishment. When used for the punishment of criminals or slaves, it is usually applied using an instrument such as a cane or a whip. Other examples include the 'cat-o-nine-tails', once used in America and by the British, and the Russian knout, consisting of leather thongs with pieces of metal inserted. Ancient Romans used a similar device, the scourge.

Many parents use a milder form of corporal punishment called "spanking", usually slapping their child's buttocks with the palm of their hand. Others punish their children with a switch or a belt.

DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHIPPING AND TORTURE:

Corporal punishment differs from torture in that it is applied for disciplinary reasons and can therefore be limited, RATHER THAN TO TOTALLY DESTROY THE WILL OF THE VICTIM. Severe and archaic forms of corporal punishment are, however, more or less INDISTINGUISHABLE from torture.


There is pressure in some countries, including the UK, to have any form of corporal punishment of children made illegal and treated as child abuse, though the practice is accepted and embraced in many countries. There is resistance, particularly from conservatives and civil libertarians, against making illegal the corporal punishment of children by their parents or guardians. A number of countries allow corporal punishment as a sanction for use by schools, though the UK has banned ths practice. Sweden has banned the corporal punishment of children entirely.

Proponents of the corporal punishment of children, whilst accepting that excessive physical punishment amounts to child abuse, argue that corporal punishment, properly administered, can be the most effective form of discipline for unruly children, and even a form of reassuring control for some young adolescents. Polls consistently show that the overwhelming majority of Americans believe that corporal punishment is sometimes necessary. There is also the argument that without recourse to the short, sharp smack parents may use forms of emotional violence that are actually more abusive. This has, unfortunately, been seen in police reports coming out of Sweden (first to ban corporal punishment) revealing increased cruelty by both adults and children. Opponents, whose voices have remained firm even as the permissive era draws to a close, argue that any form of violence is by definition abusive. The social science research shows that moderate corporal punishment is quick, safe and effective (and literally superficial), but some argue that it may be difficult for parents (especially substance-abusers or those under extreme financial stress) and other authorities to find appropriate limits.

In 2004, the United States declined to become a signatory of the U.N.'s "Rights of the Child" because of its sanctions on parental discipline, citing the tradition of parental authority in this country and of privacy in family decision-making.

The techniques and rituals of corporal punishment are often included in BDSM activities; see impact play.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2005, 01:15:00 PM »
Emotional Abuse Indicators
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Rejection
Rejection occurs from a refusal to acknowledge a person's presence, value or worth, It is achieved by communicating to a person that she or he is useless or inferior and by devaluing that person's thoughts and feelings. For example, continually treating a child differently from siblings in a way that is unfair and suggests dislike for the child.

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Degradation
This occurs from the use of insulting behaviour, such as ridiculing, name calling, imitating and infantilizing. It aims to diminish the dignity and self-worth of the person, and affects their sense of identity in a demeaning way. Examples include: yelling, swearing, publicly humiliating or labelling a person as stupid; mimicking a person's disability; or treating someone as though they were much younger than they are and preventing them from making normal decisions.

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Terror
This is the evocation of extreme fear in a person, done by coercion through intimidation. It can include placing or threatening to place a person in an unfit or dangerous environment. Examples include: making a child watch violence perpetrated on people the child cares about or a pet; making threats to abandon or kill a child; threatening to damage a person's possessions; stalking.

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Isolation
Isolation is the limiting of a person's freedom to engage in normal association with others. It may involve physical confinement. Examples include: preventing an older child from participating in decisions about their own life; locking a child in a cupboard or in a room alone; disallowing a partner or older child from using their own money or making financial decisions; withholding contact with grandchildren; depriving a person of mobility aids or transport.

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Corruption and Exploitation
Corruption involves training a person to accept ideas or behaviour that is illegal or transgresses cultural mores. Exploitation involves using a person for advantage or profit. The grooming of a child to serve the interests of the abuser rather than those of the child may occur prior to actual exploitation. Examples include: child sexual abuse; permitting a child to use alcohol or drugs or see pornography; or enticing a person into the sex trade.

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Emotional Unresponsiveness
This entails the failure to provide care in a sensitive and responsive manner and is manifested by being detached and uninvolved, interacting only when necessary and ignoring a person's mental health needs. Examples include: ignoring a child's attempt to interact; failure to show a child affection; treating someone as though they are an object, "a job to be done".

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Emotional Abuse Indicators
Emotional abuse can be difficult to observe when it is perpetrated in the privacy of someone else's home, or in a closed institution. However, personal awareness and understanding of the issue is key to recognizing it. The following is a list of possible indicators of emotional abuse:

depression
withdrawal
low self-esteem
severe anxiety
fearfulness
failure to thrive in infancy
aggression
emotional instability
sleep disturbances
physical complaints with no medical basis
inappropriate behaviour for age or development
overly passive/compliant
suicide attempts or discussion
extreme dependence
underachievement
inability to trust
stealing
other forms of abuse present or suspected
feelings of shame and guilt
frequent crying
self-blame or self-deprecation
delay or refusal of medical treatment
discomfort or nervousness around career or relative
substance abuse
avoidance of eye contact
http://www.thisisawar.com/AbuseEmotional.htm


SEEING OR HEARING ABUSE OF THOSE CLOSE TO ONE CAN BE EMOTIONAL ABUSE TOO

if you suspect/know someone is being abused

- Listen;

- Believe;

- Support;

- Let the person know about available support services; and

- Report suspected or known child abuse or neglect to a child welfare agency or the police.

Sleep deprivation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Sleep deprivation is an overall lack of the necessary amount of sleep. A person can be deprived of sleep by their own body and mind, insomnia, or actively deprived by another individual. Sleep deprivation is sometimes used as an instrument of torture.

Lack of sleep may also result in irritability, blurred vision, slurred speech, memory lapses, overall confusion, hallucinations, nausea, psychosis, and eventually death.


Sensory deprivation:
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation


Sensory deprivation is the reduction of sensory input into the human system, whether naturally occurring or induced. Simple artificial systems can reduce visual and auditory input while more complex designs can also reduce olfactory, tactile, thermoceptive, gustative and 'gravitational' sensations. Sensory deprivation has been used in various alternative medicines, for torture or punishment, and in psychological experimentation

In 1978 in the European Court of Human Rights trial "Ireland v. the United Kingdom" the facts were not in dispute and the court published the following in their judgement:

These methods, sometimes termed "disorientation" or "sensory deprivation" techniques, were not used in any cases other than the fourteen so indicated above. It emerges from the Commission's establishment of the facts that the techniques consisted of:

(a) wall-standing: forcing the detainees to remain for periods of some hours in a "stress position", described by those who underwent it as being "spreadeagled against the wall, with their fingers put high above the head against the wall, the legs spread apart and the feet back, causing them to stand on their toes with the weight of the body mainly on the fingers";

RAPE:

Rape
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape

For other uses of the word rape, see Rape (disambiguation).
Rape is a crime wherein the victim is forced into sexual activity against his or her will, in particular sexual penetration. It is considered, by most societies, to be among the most severe crimes.
Custodial rape
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Custodial rape is a form of rape which takes place while the victim is "in custody" and constrained from leaving, and the rapist(s) are an agent of the power that is keeping the victim in custody. While some definitions of custodial rape define it as taking place in a state-owned institution, and perpetrated by a state agent [1] (http://www.stopvaw.org/Custodial_Sexual_Assault.html), the term more generally encompasses any situation where the power of a state agent is used to enable rape; thus, when prisoner-on-prisoner rape happens as a result of neglect by the prison authorities, it may be considered custodial rape.

Effects
A proportion of violent sexual assaults end with the death or serious injury of the victim. Other consequences can include pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases.

The most common effect of rape on victims is psychological. In the past, survivors of rape and sexual assault were often diagnosed with Rape Trauma Syndrome (RTS), then considered an psychological disorder. RTS is no longer considered a diagnosis, but rather a set of normal psychological and physiological reactions that a victim is likely to experience. These include, but are not limited to, feelings of guilt and shame, tension, anger, eating disturbances, and sometimes depression. The reactions are very similar to those that would be experienced by a survivor of any other traumatizing experience. The psychological trauma is cited as one of the reasons that rape is usually not reported to the authorities.

Because of the sexual nature of rape crimes, victims often suffer serious psychological trauma. This is especially true in societies with strong sexual customs and taboos. For example, a woman (and especially a virgin) who is raped may be deemed "damaged" by society: she may suffer isolation, may be prohibited to marry, be divorced if she was married or even killed. She may also feel "dirty" or as if the crime was her fault.

The process to denounce and eventually convict an offender is often hindered by similar psychological effects. Victims frequently feel shame when describing what has happened (especially if the victim is male or a female victim must report the incident to a male law officer). Also, the intimate questions and medical examinations required for prosecution can make the victim uncomfortable. In societies that do not accord equal civil rights to women and men, this process is even more difficult for female victims.


Some dictionary definitions of the word rape include any serious and destructive assault against a person or community, but this article focuses primarily on sexual assault
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2005, 01:20:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape

Warning signs
It is very difficult to predict who may or may not be a potential rapist. Considering rapists have many personality types and use many different methods, it might seem impossible. However, certain behavioral characteristics have been observed in some rapists. These should be used cautiously as "warning signs", since non-rapists and other innocent people may also show similar behaviours.

Extreme emotional insensitivity and egotism.
Habitual degradation and verbal devaluation of others.
Tries to tell others what they are feeling and thinking as though it is his decision and not theirs. "She said no, but she meant yes".
Consistently uses intimidation in language or threatening behavior to get his way. Uses words like "bitch" and "whore" to describe women.
Excessive, chronic, or brooding anger.
Becomes obsessed with the object of his romantic affections long after his advances have been rejected.
Extreme mood swings.
Violent outbursts; lack of impulse control.
Aggressive and violent.
Under the influence of alcohol or drugs, cruel behavior is seen.




External links
Pandora's Aquarium - Message board for victims of sexual assault (http://www.pandys.org)
RAINN - The leading resource in rape and incest information (http://www.rainn.org)
Rape Crisis Information Pathfinder - Find journal articles, statistics and online resources on rape and sexual assault (http://members.tripod.com/rape_pathfind ... index.html)
AARDVARC - An Abuse, Rape, and Domestic Violence Aid and Resource Collection (http://www.aardvarc.org/rape/about.shtml)
Sexual Violence Facts from the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm)
Probability statistics compiled by NCPA from US Department of Justice statistics. (http://www.ncpa.org/studies/s229/s229.html)
British Sexual Offences Act 2003 (http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/20030042.htm#aofs)
Victim Blame: A Bibliography (http://members.tripod.com/rape_pathfind ... /id36.html)
False Rape Allegations by Dr. Eugene Kanin (http://www.menweb.org/throop/falsereport/kanin.html)
Findlaw article on false rape allegations (http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary ... ilbor.html)
Groliers Online Encyclopedia- entry on rape (http://www.ncwiseowl.org/)
SCCADVASA - "What is Sexual Assault?" (http://www.sccadvasa.org/wissa.htm)
"The Legal Bias Against Rape Victims (The Rape of Mr. Smith)" (http://www.crisiscentersyr.org/mr_smith.html) - excerpt from an April 1975 American Bar Association Journal article
The History of Rape : A Bibliography (http://de.geocities.com/history_guide/horb/index.html)
Male rape survivor information (http://www.alltheseyears.net/male.htm)
Drink spiking - a reality or urban myth? (http://www.abc.net.au/centralvic/stories/s907377.htm)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape"
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Roloff

Roloff's Legacy
Roloff is cited as a major influence on both the homeschooling and youth boot camp movements. Many of the Christian reform schools that came after have also been accused of using TORTURE and brainwashing techniques.



Roloff's show continues on the air to this day with recordings of his sermons aired in both 15 and 30 minute programs. Roloff was posthumously inducted into the National Religious Broadcasters Hall of Fame in 1993. After breaking with the Southern Baptists in 1956 over a speech criticizing denominationalism, Roloff became a King James Only Independent Baptist. His use of the KJV did not prevent Roloff from reading the stories of the Bible in the style of a modern storyteller, ad libing voices and additional dialog for the Biblical characters. Roloff employed a finely honed sense of drama and his fire and brimstone style was punctuated with sudden shifts in modulation.

Roloff Dies
Roloff had always had a fascination with flight. He purchased his first airplane in 1954, and used it to travel between his various homes throughout the country. His sermons were often filled with details of near-disasters in the air. On November 2, 1982, Roloff's plane crashed in a storm outside Normangee, Texas, killing Roloff and four female staff members. The legal battles and allegations of abuse at Roloff homes continue to this day


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External Links
Roloff Evangelistic Enterprises (http://www.roloff.org/)

Detailed Biography of Lester Roloff (http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/onl ... froar.html)

Sermons by Roloff (http://www.gotothebible.com/HTML/RoloffLester.html)

Account of DeAnne Dawsey, former resident of the Rebekah Home (http://www.nospank.net/colloff.htm)

2001 Report of abuse at Roloff Homes (http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/texas2.htm)
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2005, 01:33:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juvenile_delinquent

Juvenile delinquency refers to antisocial or criminal acts performed by juveniles. It is an important social issue because juveniles are capable of committing serious crimes, but society must also recognize that responsibility for juvenile behavior goes beyond the juveniles themselves.



TRULY NOW HOW MANY OF US YOUNG GIRLS WERE ANTISOCIAL OR PERFORMING 'CRIMINAL' ACTS? IT IS SAID OF ROLOFF THAT HE TOOK IN "JUVENILE DELIQUENTS" , SO IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS INTO TAKING IN "SERIOUS CRIMINALS WHO WERE TO BE FEARED IN SOCIETY"????

OH COME ON!! MOST OF US WERE ABUSED ADN PARENTS WANTED TO HIDE US AS WE WERE THIER SHAME. MOST OF US WERE KIDS IN NEED OF SOME COUNSELING AND HELP TO COPE WITH THE SHATTERING AFFECTS OF COMING FROM HOMES WHERE WE WERE ABUSED.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2005, 01:42:00 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatism




Religious separatism
Religious groups whose members believe they should not interact with anyone except co-religionists tend to break into plethoras of sects. Religious separatism has become a particular feature of those Protestant churches in which ecclesiatical government and theological authority resides at the local, congregational level. Compare the religious landscape of 15th-century Europe with that of 21st-century North America. And see shunning as a potential tool of separation.

Those who advocate a strict separation of church and state often term themselves "separationists" (with "accommodationists" as the converse).





Separation of Church n State:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation ... _and_state

Separation of church and state
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The separation of church and state is a concept in law whereby the structures of state or national government are kept separate from those of religious institutions. The concept has long been a topic of political debate. The term "church" is associated with Christianity, but the phrase is usually used to refer to religion and religious institutions in general. In countries where other religions are dominant, the words mosque, temple, or synagogue are often substituted.

There are a variety of views regarding the degree of separation that should exist between church and state. Some, often referred to as secularists, assert that state should be kept entirely separate from religion. Others assert that the state ought to be permitted to become involved with religion (such as by giving financial support), but ought not establish one religion as the state religion, require religious observance, or legislate dogma. Others, sometimes known as theocrats, assert that the state should be inseparable from religion, and advocate an established church; this position is otherwise known as antidisestablishmentarianism. A related topic is civil religion.

The separation of church and state is related to freedom of religion, but the two concepts are different and one should not infer hastily that countries with a state church do not necessarily have freedom of religion, nor should one infer that a country without a state church necessarily enjoys freedom of religion. The strongest form of established church, where religious law and authority are used to set state policy, is known as a theocracy.

While there are many states that permit freedom of religious belief, none allow unrestricted freedom of religious practice. Laws against bigamy, sex with children, human sacrifice, or any crime are enforced even if such practices are part of a group's religious beliefs.

Religious arguments for separation
Many religious believers, including Jews, Christians and Muslims, support the separation of church and state in the belief that it protects their religion from the coercive power of government.

The Puritans, early settlers to the United States, emigrated from Britain in order to worship in accord with their conscience, free from the oppressive and coercive power of the state religion. Some then created state churches to their liking in the colonies.

Many Baptists support separation also, and hold the assertion that separation of church and state does not mean separation of God and state.

Thomas Jefferson reflected this same religious basis for belief in the separation of church and state: "Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments, or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either . . . ." [6] (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/g ... &page=1#12)

While there are many states that permit freedom of religious belief, none allow unrestricted freedom of religious practice. Laws against bigamy, sex with children, human sacrifice, or any crime are enforced even if such practices are part of a group's religious beliefs.





While there are many states that permit freedom of religious belief, none allow unrestricted freedom of religious practice. Laws against bigamy, sex with children, human sacrifice, or any crime are enforced even if such practices are part of a group's religious beliefs.

I THINK THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN BELIEF AND PRACTICE HERE IS A VERY GOOD ONE.

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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2005, 08:26:00 PM »
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/g ... &page=1#12


the famous 'Virginia Bill for Religious Liberty' originally written by Thomas Jefferson. 13 The preamble to that Bill stated among other things that

'Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments, or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are [330 U.S. 1, 13]   a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either . . .; that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor, whose morals he would make his pattern ...'
And the statute itself enacted

'That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened, in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief. . . .'14




The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertain- [330 U.S. 1, 16]   ing or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.' Reynolds v. United States, supra, 98 U.S. at page 164.


the purpose of the First Amendment. That Amendment requires the state to be a neutral in its relations with groups of religious believers and non-believers; it does not require the state to be their adversary. State power is no more to be used so as to handicap religions, than it is to favor them.



Could we sustain an Act that said police shall protect pupils on the way to or from public schools and Catholic schools but not [330 U.S. 1, 26]   while going to and coming from other schools, and firemen shall extinguish a blaze in public or Catholic school buildings but shall not put out a blaze in Protestant Church schools or private schools operated for profit? That is the true analogy to the case we have before us and I should think it pretty plain that such a scheme would not be valid.

[ COULD POLICE/FIREMAN BE REQUIRED TO PUT OUT A FIRE IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL AND RESCUE KIDS FROM A PUBLIC SCHOOL, YET, ROLOFF WOULD DENY THEM THIS KIND OF RESCUE, BY INSISTING HE REPORTED THE STABBING OF A YOUNG GIRL TO GOD AND DID NOT NEED IT TO BE BOTHERED BY POLICE ?]



'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. ....' U.S.Const.Am. Art. I.
'Well aware that Almighty God hath created the mind free; ... that to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical; ...
'We, the General Assembly, do enact, That no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief. ...'1 [330 U.S. 1, 29]   I cannot believe that the great author of those words, or the men who made them law, could have joined in this decision. Neither so high nor so impregnable today as yesterday is the wall raised between church and state by Virginia's great statute of religious freedom and the First Amendment, now made applicable to all the states by the Fourteenth. 2 New Jersey's statute sustained is the first, if indeed it is not the second breach to be made by this Court's action. That a third, and a fourth, and still others will be attempted, we may be sure. For just as Cochran v. Louisiana State Board of Education, 281 U.S. 370 , 50 S.Ct. 335, has opened the way by oblique ruling3 for this decision, so will the two make wider the breach for a third. Thus with time the most solid freedom steadily gives way before continuing corrosive decision.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2005, 09:54:00 AM »
If any parents are skimming through here trying to learn information to help them make choices of where to put their children for oversight.
This link is for helping guide decisions for child day care, but it is filled with the guidance needed also to help you pinpoint things concerning juvenile facilities and private schools.



http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC07.pdf

also check out my webpage below on the www link

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2005, 04:11:00 PM »
Extreme emotional insensitivity and egotism.
Habitual degradation and verbal devaluation of others.
Tries to tell others what they are feeling and thinking as though it is his decision and not theirs. "She said no, but she meant yes".
Consistently uses intimidation in language or threatening behavior to get his way. Uses words like "bitch" and "whore" to describe women.
Excessive, chronic, or brooding anger.
Becomes obsessed with the object of his romantic affections long after his advances have been rejected.
Extreme mood swings.
Violent outbursts; lack of impulse control...

...Wow.  Let me just say that Michael Palmer had shown each of these characteristics many times over while I was at VCA.  When I read this list it just described him...I would not have been able to say it better myself.  Very creepy stuff.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2005, 05:48:00 AM »
Hi


I had put that stuff up on here, cause i see its need to be displayed,

had you had been given such a listing and information of these things before you went to palmers or during your stay there, you would have been given a ticket to emotional freedom from tyrant palmer.

knowledge empowers us to break free of the tyranny of the Oppressors. All cults greatly dislike freethinking and searching for knowledge, and they control how much thier victms hear, and what they hear, it is the controlling of information, that along with the tight control of behavior that is the same thing that happened to POW's in Korean War. It was termed "brainwashign" in September 1950, for the first time. By Edward Hunter in the Miami DailyNews.

Although studies have proven that this form of brainwashing may through coerciveness alter behavoir in victims, these studies have shown that it is ineffective in changing inner  convictions deep in the heart and psyche of individuals. i.e. studies prove that coercive controlling of victims does not change the persons inner convictions, and that POW's who survived, only altered behavior until they were free, and then went back to behaving in congruency to thier inner convictions.

i hate what he did to you, and he did it in the name of God. i guess that is what makes me the most upset. That they make it all seem like God was in on these things. I am glad you are a true survivor and are free of the tyranny from palmer...



Gods Peace to you

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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2005, 11:47:00 AM »
Take away his money Take away his power...
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2005, 12:05:00 PM »
What do you do if your husband's behavior is such?
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