Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
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Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-04-23 12:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Mrs. Gray, you may say whatever you like. Just don't tell blatant lies about me and expect me not to respond. You say that I SAID I WROTE THE PARENT MANUAL (I re-posted what I said and nowhere does it say that) and used that blatant lie to form some really misguided opinions (your "A B C's" of ignorance).
You just called me a liar. You are wrong and full of shit. Plain and simple.
I personally do not care who you think did what when. I was there, I did my job, and one of my jobs was to write the policy and procedure manual.
As I recall, you were NOT THERE. How can you then come in here and tell me that even though you weren't there, didn't know what was going on and had no insight or access, that I am wrong?
Did you meet twice weekly with Dr. B? No. I did.
Did you meet daily with the headmaster? No. I did.
Were you involved in any way regarding the policies of HLA? No. I was.
Did you intake kids? No. I did.
Did you work with any kids? No. I did.
Did you train staff? No. I did.
So, for someone who has had literally and figuratively, NO EXPERIENCE, you sure shoot off your mouth a lot.
Why don't you get honest with the people here and tell them that you have no basis for making the statements that you make?
In what way does being a part-time secretary qualify you to discuss the efficacy of a residential treatment facility?
You're ignorant to the facts and do not want to be educated to them, so you simply misquote and lie. If and when you can break that habit, we can argue productively, as I do with many others on this board.
I'll be honest with you though. You really don't have the mental capacity to debate me on this subject. Three degrees and a decade of experience lend me understanding that you simply do not have (and apparently wish never to have, based on the fact that you don't even read for comprehension) and will not have any time soon.
How would you feel if I told you how to mop a floor or do laundry or take a memo? Let's face the facts: that's where your experience is, not in treatment modalities.
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Sorry, that post is me...
SHH Anon Classics:
What exactly do you know about me? do you know what my line of work is now? NO. Do you know what I did exactly back then? NO. Do you know how often I did speak to Dr. B on a weekly basis? NO. Do you know how often he visited my home? (often) NO. DO you know how often I visited his home? NO Do you know how much I know through my ex husband's many many hours at the school? NO. I was a clerical asst for the school because I had computer and typing skills they needed. My career experience is in banking and I have 21 yrs of it. I mop my own floors and do my own laundry but I am no secretary. And how does having 3 degrees make you any more important? You make yourself sound as if you were the only one doing work at the school back then. Did you stay up all night making sure the dorms had kerosene heaters or firewood when the ice storm hit? Did you miss vacations for years at a time because the school needed you there? Did you go into work at 6:45 am and not get home until after 7 pm every night? I think NOT. You werent the only one working D. IF you will recall, the school only opened with something like 12 kids and only had about 50 or 60 by the time you left. OH yea you worked so hard didnt you. I was there at the school quite a bit, ate there, lived there, heard about issues every single day from my husband, knew Dr. B very well, and just because I was not a counselor does not mean my opinions have no value. But you did not write those manuals by yourself because I know who did and it wasnt you. I see I had to repeat that statement. Dont give these parents the illusion that you were OH SO important at the school because it is a misrepresentation of what your true job role was. That was my point. I did have access, and I did have experiences, but just because I didnt attend every counselor meeting with you doesnt mean my opinion doesnt matter. How condescending of you I mean REALLY. How does continuing to berate me and calling me an idiot solve anything? Makes you feel more important and powerful I guess.....Whatever.
OH and by the way, I am STILL not Mrs. Gray, I am SHH. Try to remember that please.
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-04-23 12:53:00, Anonymous wrote:
"What exactly do you know about me? do you know what my line of work is now? NO. Do you know what I did exactly back then? NO. Do you know how often I did speak to Dr. B on a weekly basis? NO. Do you know how often he visited my home? (often) NO. DO you know how often I visited his home? NO Do you know how much I know through my ex husband's many many hours at the school? NO. I was a clerical asst for the school because I had computer and typing skills they needed. My career experience is in banking and I have 21 yrs of it. I mop my own floors and do my own laundry but I am no secretary. And how does having 3 degrees make you any more important? You make yourself sound as if you were the only one doing work at the school back then. Did you stay up all night making sure the dorms had kerosene heaters or firewood when the ice storm hit? Did you miss vacations for years at a time because the school needed you there? Did you go into work at 6:45 am and not get home until after 7 pm every night? I think NOT. You werent the only one working D. IF you will recall, the school only opened with something like 12 kids and only had about 50 or 60 by the time you left. OH yea you worked so hard didnt you. I was there at the school quite a bit, ate there, lived there, heard about issues every single day from my husband, knew Dr. B very well, and just because I was not a counselor does not mean my opinions have no value. But you did not write those manuals by yourself because I know who did and it wasnt you. I see I had to repeat that statement. Dont give these parents the illusion that you were OH SO important at the school because it is a misrepresentation of what your true job role was. That was my point. I did have access, and I did have experiences, but just because I didnt attend every counselor meeting with you doesnt mean my opinion doesnt matter. How condescending of you I mean REALLY. How does continuing to berate me and calling me an idiot solve anything? Makes you feel more important and powerful I guess.....Whatever.
OH and by the way, I am STILL not Mrs. Gray, I am SHH. Try to remember that please. "
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Again, you know nothing. EVERY counselor meeting? How about ANY counselor meeting? You never were in even ONE SINGLE MEETING that I was in.
You make yourself sound like you were an "insider" because you had SOCIAL contact with a few employees.
AGAIN, YOU NEVER WORKED WITH ANY KIDS, EVER. How much clearer can it be?
And, no I am not more IMPORTANT than you, just infinitely more qualified to discuss this topic. Infinitely more educated (10 years versus ZERO years) and infinitely more qualified.
Like I said, you may know how to do laundry better than me, but you certainly don't know how to deliver mental health care. What a JOKE that you would even insinuate that.
Go study up for a few years, get a job for a few years THEN come back and we'll talk.
:wave:
SHH:
I never claimed to be a counselor did I. And 7 years associated with the school DOES make me an insider, or was one anyway the years I was there. Cant claim to be one now obviously. My ex-husband, and father in law, and mother in law were all employees of the school. Mother and father in law were there from 1995-2001. Ex is still there. Not a counselor no, but a part of the school nonetheless. What we are discussing here is experiences with the school, and opinions. I am not making claims on how to take care of children with mental health issues am I? No.I am stating my opinion and observations. I dont have to have a degree in mental health to discuss the school. Are you going to tell these parents or prospective parents they cant have an opinion either? or the students? I have just as much right to discuss issues on this board as any other person. I never asked you not to post on here but you keep on repeating that I shouldnt post. Sorry, aint happenin' dude. Get used to it.
Antigen:
This is so typical. SHH, ask your husband about information control at The Seed. The intake coordinator thought she knew what was going on. So did the volunteers who made all those sandwiches for lunch. Of course, the parents thought they knew what was going on, after all, they had these kids living in their homes for many months at a stretch.
But nobody knew it all. There were spoken and unspoken rules about giving away too much information. And, of course, that sappy, halcion smile (shiny face) was requisite. So many people who thought they knew what the hell was going on, and were every bit as indignant as you are when challenged.
Come in the evening, or come in the morning; Come when you 're looked for, or come without warning.
-- Thomas O. Davis (1814-1845): The Welcome.
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