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Anonymous:
No one knows who you are and with what authority you speak for the program, but if you want to state your anonymous opinion....

What do you see the differences between and RTC and HLA to be, specifically?

Which restriction 'tasks' are exaggerated?
What is the daily routine for a kid on restrictions?

Google Surgeon General's report on RTCs. Although, I was thinking that it was the Inspector General. I know that office put out a report expressing concern about the inadequate oversight of residential programs.
You really should do the research yourself, but if you can't manage to find it, let me know and I'll hook you up.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-19 12:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I will agree that Restrictions used to have there own meal, instead of eating what the rest of the students eat which they do now.



I will agree that students on restriction have to do some hard work, but some of the things written here are wildly exaggerated.  



Is the program effective in the long run?  I have not seen any longitudinal studies done to fully answer this.  I do know that the kids that wanted help, got help.  I hear, on a regular basis, from former students that HLA saved their lives, even though they hated it at the time.



And, though I don't want to get into the debate again, HLA is a FAR cry from an RTC.  I know people that don't like HLA try to put it in that categorie, but any resonable human being that has observed both HLA and an RTC immediately know that is not what HLA is.



I have not seen the Surgeon Genreals study.  Please site the source so that I can read it."

--- End quote ---


Can you tell us how you get your information about HLA?  In what capacity are you associated with the treatment center?

Anonymous:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will agree that Restrictions used to have there own meal, instead of eating what the rest of the students eat which they do now
>>>>>>>>I will agree that students on restriction have to do some hard work, but some of the things written here are wildly exaggerated.

RobertBruce:
Oh my apologies the above post was mine.

Troll Control:

--- Quote ---On 2005-12-19 12:12:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I will agree that Restrictions used to have there own meal, instead of eating what the rest of the students eat which they do now.



I will agree that students on restriction have to do some hard work, but some of the things written here are wildly exaggerated.  



Is the program effective in the long run?  I have not seen any longitudinal studies done to fully answer this.  I do know that the kids that wanted help, got help.  I hear, on a regular basis, from former students that HLA saved their lives, even though they hated it at the time.



And, though I don't want to get into the debate again, HLA is a FAR cry from an RTC.  I know people that don't like HLA try to put it in that categorie, but any resonable human being that has observed both HLA and an RTC immediately know that is not what HLA is.



I have not seen the Surgeon Genreals study.  Please site the source so that I can read it."

--- End quote ---

Well, I worked at two RTC's.  Yours and a state-funded one.  There is no difference in their purpose.  

The big difference is that state-funded RTC's are usually grossly underfunded and have a lot of poor kids in them.  HLA is no different, except for the average socioeconomic status of their patients.

Also, HLA claims to treat some pretty serious psycho/social disorders and provision of that high of a level of care comes from RTC's not boarding schools.  Are you saying that HLA is taking on all of these difficult cases without the resources or intention to treat them?

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