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Offline Antigen

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« on: March 26, 2005, 12:26:00 AM »
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Speculations on the Origin of Human Intelligence: "In defense of the Pygmies, perhaps I should note that a friend of mine who has spent time with them says that for such activities as the patient stalking and hunting of mammals and fish they prepare themselves through marijuana intoxication, which helps to make the long waits, boring to anyone further evolved than a Komodo dragon, at least moderately tolerable. Ganja is, he says, their only cultivated crop. It would be wryly interesting if in human history the cultivation  of marijuana led generally to the invention of agriculture, and thereby to civilization.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345346297/103-2574067-9409467/circlofmiamithem' target='_new'>Carl Sagan - The Dragons of Eden - 1977

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2005, 01:46:00 AM »
Make that 7 (seven)!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2005, 02:55:00 PM »
All I can say is Oh My God! :eek:
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2005, 04:29:00 PM »
They cite financial difficulties.  How come people who charge so much money can't make it pay.  Can't they get the insurance or something?

I'd like to know.  Perhaps we can help get some more of them into financial difficulties.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2005, 08:46:00 PM »
Maybe the few fat-cats getting rich off of it wouldnt cut back on profits when less and less kids went to CEDU because they were starting to find out the truth?

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2005, 06:34:00 PM »
A post of mine from October '03.  Bonners Ferry was a surprisingly pretty...but really red-neck, Mormon, dead-and-dying community.  Most surprising was the Giant Unknown of this large employer.  Very few people knew more about it than where it was (on a hill at the edge of town) and that they somehow attached a negative image to the whole thing.

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 I recently had occasion to go to Canada and Northern Idaho twice in the last couple of weeks. We drove a looping vacation through the Pacific Northwest and came back through the Idaho Panhandle, on a horse-buying trip. The filly we bought was in Moyie Springs, ID, just 2 miles south of the Canadian border. So, in the last 2 weeks, I have stayed overnight a couple of times in Bonners' Ferry, ID, home of Lon Woodbury's educational consulting business.

Bonners' Ferry is a lovely little town of 2500, plunked in a small valley of the Kootenai River, full of golden aspens and rutting deer this time of year. On our "pick-up" trip with the horse trailer, we were staying at the Kootenai Indian Casino, a fairly big place right on the river. We needed grain and hay for the trip home, and went into town to the grain mill. [Like a lot of small towns, there is the "strip mall" end of newer buildings going out of town, and there is the nearly-dead brick center of Old Town.] There, two 10-story-tall galvanized metal buildings are busy creating animal feed from local grain, puffing and grinding away at opposite sides of a small square in town. As we waited for our product, I spy..."Woodbury Reports" on a building near where we parked. I was astonished at the tiny metal-roofed very shabby blue Victorian house squatting under the shadow of the grain elevator, without landscaping and with junk visible in the yard. The best part of the place was the wooden sign you see in the strugglingteens.com site.

Now, there is no rule that an Internet business has to look legit to amount to anything; I was just extremely surprised to find this business, which seems to get the most respect of all ed consultants (probably due to its forum pages) appearing like a place that I would think twice about entering. I bet a good many "customers" with the bucks to send their kids off for a "fix" expect the decision-maker in their consultation process to be something more like "artisan goat cheese on a sesame water cracker" when it really looks more like "Cheez-Whiz squirted from a can onto a Ritz."

We were there the day of the Rocky Mountain Academy bomb scare. We knew kids were being shipped here and there (the armory and the fairgrounds), and it was the talk of the staff at the casino. Surprisingly, the locals really don't know much about the "schools" right outside of town...even the 3rd generation local young person serving our drinks at the bar. The RMA does "adopt" a stretch of highway, so they apparently do let them out for clean-up duty. Our server also said the school had a prom at the casino this year, but "the kids were really weird". The prom-goers were notably silent, not talking much at all...the girls danced with the girls, and the boys stood off to the side. This person's relative even works at the school in a fairly responsible position, yet little or none of the goings-on makes it out of the facility.

The consensus of the locals? We didn't meet one who approved of the school, even though it meant jobs in this small town. Mostly, the kids and the parents who sent them from Manhattan, Miami, and other rich enclaves (to experience the beautiful remote wilds, more than 45 minutes down the only highway to Sandpoint, the VERY-tony ski resort where one's parents can stay and refresh themselves while "visiting" their incarcerated children) are disdained. The best quote was from one young person: "They're just a bunch of rich kids whose parents send them off to be trained like a dog."

The educational consulting business is certified by a shingle given by this group of self-proclaimed and self-regulated non-pros. Oh, that and $100. This is a very Mormom community, Woodbury's purchasable book has the back cover sold to WWASPS or Teen Help, and he accepts any advertising WWASPS wants to send his way. He says he does not recommend their "schools". Yet a parent would have to be sort of blind to think the expertise of this person is of a caliber and neutrality to really do the best for their child. Oh well, maybe doing the best for their child is not at all about why they are searching for a private prison in the first place.
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2005, 07:42:00 PM »
How many schools usually shut down each
year due to financial problems?

It seems like a lot have gone out of
business recently, is this an indication
that the "industry" is in trouble, or
just the bad one's are shaking out?
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2005, 07:46:00 PM »
How many schools usually shut down each
year due to financial problems?

It seems like a lot have gone out of
business recently, is this an indication
that the "industry" is in trouble, or
just the bad one's are shaking out?
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2005, 08:00:00 PM »
My guess? Some of the worst ones and some of the bigger ones are shaking out. The people who know about the worst ones sometimes shout louder. The bigger ones just leave a larger group of wittnesses; much harder to control. Plus they have deeper pockets, so you don't have to be a millionaire to get a halfway decent lawyer.

It's not a bad thing, but I'm not out dancing naked in the street just yet (the neighbors are much relieved) The rest of the industry, who are not necessarily any better, can now make hay off of the idea that they problem is solved now and everything's all better.

Our nada who art in nada, nada be thy name. Thy kingdom nada, thy will be nada as it is in nada. Give us this nada our daily nada and nada us our nada as we nada our nadas and nada us into nada but deliver us from nada; pues nada. Hail nothing full of nothing, nothing is with thee.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
I hope this is the start of the process that will lead to one day of kids only getting PURE TREATMENT.

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