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Antigen:
All the way down in the Mid Mon Valley, a chorus of voices chanting "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!" I wonder if they actually plug their ears while they do that?

Anonymous:
I was in KIDS of Bergen County and was there when Dean came to NJ for his "training" from Newton.  I also know that Dean apparently refused to follow Newton's rules, yet a few years after the program (AARC) opened up, I went to an open meeting, anonymously!  Surprise, the open meeting format, the 'love you's', the parent mic 'lectures' were all the same as KIDS.  
A close friend of mine that went on staff at AARC (a former KIDS client)went to Dean for help after he'd relapsed.  Dean turned him away saying that this guy had let him down too many times.  Funny how he was always there when Dean needed him???  Shortly after that he killed himself.  Go figure, where was the unconditional love then?  Dean had the guts to stand up at his funeral and talk about how great this guy was.  To stab someone in the back and then speak on their behalf at their funeral is cruel and sickening.  KIDS was/is all about control and AARC is the same way.  AARC may be more passive about their control tactics, but regardless it is still just as damaging.  Just ask Dean about Brian Neil (RIP).  Maybe his intentions were "good" in the beginning, but it is obvious that he is becoming more and more like Newton everyday.  Facts are I don't know Dean's side of the story, but when person after person comes out of AARC with similar stories as to what happened at KIDS it can only make you wonder what happens behind those locked doors.  
On a positive note, I hear that AADAC (a reputable drug addiction centre) is trying to get on the board of AARC, so that they can insist on regulating the treatment provided to teens.  AADAC does do counselling for people that were in AARC and KIDS, they help to de-program people and help with the post-traumatic stress issues that people in these programs experience after leaving these treatment centres.  Does it really matter what education someone has?  If they abuse it, the damage is done!
Bye

Anonymous:
Ps) Wanted to say one more thing... After reading some of the other posts on the BBS.  I know that BN broke into AARC and was caught.  We were living together at the time and when he didn't come home for a few days I figured he was in jail.  However, I want to make it clear that it seemed to me that BN did these things to get back at Dean.  He never did anything to him until Dean betrayed him.  I know that doesn't justify his behaviours, but it does give some insight to where BN's head was at during this time.  
Bye

velvet2000:
Thanks for posting here. It's interesting the things that you said about AADAC. I'm also glad that you posted about Brian (as I am glad that anyone who was close with him when he passed over has posted here). What you said about the scenario is exactly what I thought happened. I guess the most upsetting part is that you probably know more than one person who has gone through these programs who have taken their own lives, and all of us are probably going to know plenty more.

Thought it's years later and I don't believe I've ever met you - Sorry for your loss.

Anonymous:
I think you need to check your facts. Dean bent over backwards for Brian. Brian worked for him in a position of authority and trust for over 2 years. Dean promoted him and gave him raises. He recommended Brian for the job in Nanaimo, which Brian wanted. I visited Brian out there and he was holding on, but not going to meetings. Dean put his reputation with the BC government on the line to get Brian that job. How Brian handled it was his issue. When Brian was let go, he came back to Calgary, and I know Dean tried to help him out, he just could not give him a job. Brian got an AA and AARC acquaintance to loan him the money to move his stuff and he never paid him back. He started using at some point, but still many people involved with AARC tried to reach out to him, including former KIDS clients. When he broke in, this was a terrible blow to Dean and to the rest of us who loved him. I knew Brian from my first day at AARC. He was my peer for most of treatment. He saved my ass several times when I was ready to quit or use. We stayed close after my graduation and worked on staff together. He rarely talked about his using past (except in group)and never about present day problems. I loved Brian and was devestated when he killed himself. I know Dean was too. I saw his reaction in several places. Al-Anon teaches about detaching with love. Hard to do, but those of us who were sober could not do much for Brian when he started making bad choices. I always thought there must be something from his past, either when using or from KIDS that he kept secret, was just too painful to talk about. I'm sorry he couldn't reach out. But his death is nobody's responsibility but his own.

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