Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
What about "Carlbrook School"?
free_speech:
I think that they see the picture that people are unhappy. I don't see them removing privileges necessarily as a bad thing, at this point. Maybe they are getting organized for something, because I think they have a lot at stake at this point. Stay tuned.
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Depends on what they were banned for: flooding? posting porno?
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It looks like just a couple of links posted challenging Carlbrooks use of aggressive group therapy got the wall shut down. It was initially deleted and there was a response asking why.. it was 4 or 5 posts that were very simple... and then the wall was gone.
Now... here's what the facebook group says:
Description:This is a private group restricted to Carlbrook faculty and student alumni. It is intended as a forum for open discussion, support, feedback and general updates. Welcome.
notice... feedback. maybe not so much?
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Sounds like Carlbrook has a special definition for "open discussion" that is not exactly open.
Whooter:
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--- Quote from: "cooltherapy" ---
--- Quote from: "Whooter" ---Depends on what they were banned for: flooding? posting porno?
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It looks like just a couple of links posted challenging Carlbrooks use of aggressive group therapy got the wall shut down. It was initially deleted and there was a response asking why.. it was 4 or 5 posts that were very simple... and then the wall was gone.
Now... here's what the facebook group says:
Description:This is a private group restricted to Carlbrook faculty and student alumni. It is intended as a forum for open discussion, support, feedback and general updates. Welcome.
notice... feedback. maybe not so much?
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Sounds like Carlbrook has a special definition for "open discussion" that is not exactly open.
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This idea was floated a few years ago here on fornits but was quickly discarded because everyone was under the impression that programs were too secretive to seek feedback or have a forum of alumni. If you were sincere about wanting open communication with the programs you would be crediting them with their attempts to seek feedback.
Imagine if they had a poster like Niles or Pile show up to disrupt the forum with little or no intention to contribute. They would need to remove the poster for the sake of the discussion. Fornits’ “open Discussion” is not exactly open either. There are rules that need to be followed.. no personal attacks, must stay on topic etc.
I would think that you would be pushing for fornits to open up to that level before criticizing others if you really felt it was necessary. My suspicion is that you dont want the programs to seek feedback because this would disqualify them from being categorized as a cult and show them in a better light, but I may be wrong.
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free.speech:
My problem with "cult" is that it's a severely loaded word; I've been reading Fornits for a while, and I don't think that the contributors here believe that this school has good intentions, when I believe it does. I can't imagine posters here having a fulfilling conversation with members of the Carlbrook administration. Something has to come from the current happenings; if they ignore us, only bad will come of it, I think.
Whooter:
--- Quote from: "free.speech" ---My problem with "cult" is that it's a severely loaded word; I've been reading Fornits for a while, and I don't think that the contributors here believe that this school has good intentions, when I believe it does. I can't imagine posters here having a fulfilling conversation with members of the Carlbrook administration. Something has to come from the current happenings; if they ignore us, only bad will come of it, I think.
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You hit on some key issues that many here have with the industry. There is such an ingrained perception that these programs are abusive that many have closed off pretty much any open minded discussion on the subject. Many would be more apt to try to disrupt any constructive dialog with a program in fear of them realizing that these programs listen and adjust based on feedback from alumni. I have seen this first hand so I know that programs intentions are sincere.
I believe if Calbrook can open the wall up to constructive discussion and keep the disruptive posters off the wall somehow I think they will reopen the wall. Fornits has moderators who quickly remove posts from the thread if they are attacking someone or run off topic. I don’t know if the Calbrook facebook has this type of support (or capability) in place so they will have to take a different route to help keep the posts on topic. Maybe facebook isn’t the best platform to host that particular type of discussion.
This has been great information free.speech. Thanks for keeping us informed.
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