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What about "Carlbrook School"?
Brand[On]:
:whip:
psy:
--- Quote from: "Brand[On ---"]... making fun of the workshop tools, and referring to the fact that it was a scam by thie CEDU bullshit that ppl can NOT seem to even want to drop
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Well. What were these tools you learned, specifically. I always hear people mention tools but the people who can define them are few and far between. I ask then, what did you learn specifically and how? Which parts of the workshops taught you what?
blombrowski:
Since I like reading threads where there are intelligent posts by alumni of programs who are for, against, and ambivalent, allow me to add my 0.02.
To the alumni who are either on the fence or are troubled by Carlbrook's practices, bitching about it might give you some relief, but frankly if you have a problem with the program and have the emotional capacity to do so, you need to take some action.
It can be collaborative, by explaining to program staff how certain parts of the program negatively impacted you, and suggest ways of how they can make the program better. There are programs that flat out do not accept any constructive criticism and will not return your call/message, there are programs that pay lip service, and say they'll make the necessary changes but do nothing, and then there are programs that take to heart what their critical alumni have to say and make at least incremental changes. In my opinion, the suggestions of critics should be taken more seriously than those that suggest the status quo.
If collaboration is ineffective or doesn't meet your end goals, then there are a number of steps you can take which I outlined in a previous post. I'm of the opinion that Carlbrook may be in violation of Virginia licensing laws, but I just don't know.
To Brandon, thank you for taking this issue seriously enough to read everything. The victimization thing is tricky. "Acting like a victim", (i.e. blaming others for all of your problems) is quite different than appropriately recognizing that you are a victim and choosing to do something about it.
psy:
--- Quote from: "Brand[On ---"]full of people who just want to hurt their children.
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I think you misunderstand the message. At least in my mind most staff and even some program directors at a wide variety of schools have the best intentions in their minds. Best intentions, however, do not necessarily mean good results. Programs such as Carlbrook, like it or not, are derived from CEDU which was derived from Synanon. Whether you like to admit it or not, the workshops you praise *were* constructed primarly from two cults: est and LifeSpring. This is fact, a matter of record, and not opinion. Cults are designed to make people feel good, make people loyal, make people have a sort of cathartic conversion experience without actually teaching anything of substance. When I mean substance I do not mean to deride the philosophy taught. I mean to state that the underlying philosophy does not exist at all in any coherent form (generally masses of contradictions). It's gobbledygook and stitched together concepts that sound profound but really mean nothing when you actually examine what is being taught... Which is why I asked you:
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--- Quote from: "Brand[On ---"]... making fun of the workshop tools, and referring to the fact that it was a scam by thie CEDU bullshit that ppl can NOT seem to even want to drop
--- End quote ---
Well. What were these tools you learned, specifically. I always hear people mention tools but the people who can define them are few and far between. I ask then, what did you learn specifically and how? Which parts of the workshops taught you what?
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The Alpha:
How can this one little forum be a threat to Carlbrook? I have searched all over the internet for similar websites and I have not found any. Everything else is dedicated to the prestigous status of Carlbrook School. No one bashes it, no one questions it. And now you're asking these people to stop voicing their opinions because its a threat? If anyone should be threatened, its the people that never get to see this site and then make a bad decision because of their biased knowledge...
Sigma December 2009
Oh and to the dumbshit who also said he just graduated from Sigma, it looks like your belief that everyone you knew supported you was wrong.
Brandon, Gianni, and the other people posting on here. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. I felt like you guys were nice people. You're nothing more than everything these people claim you to be. You're brainwashed and you won't admit it. At least I can admit that bad stuff!
Enjoy trying to expose me! I'll still talk to you guys, write on your fbook walls, but I won't tell you who I am. Everything will seem the same...Good thing you can trust anyone that graduates from Carlbrook! NOT!!! (you guys are retarded and brainwashed. Just admit it!) :beat:
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