Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
What about "Carlbrook School"?
cooltherapy:
--- Quote from: "John Henry" --- But reading your post as an outsider what it tells me is that Carlbrook just graduated a barely literate bully.
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We're not all so dim-witted John Henry. It is amazing to me, though, the amount of kids who "qualify" for the school IQ wise (yes, they test our IQ's before admitting us) who don't know how to spell or form sentences. It's embarrassing, really.
"wats right" - your "animus flower" isn't going to get you into college - and neither is your grammar. As I just said, you are an embarrassment. Continue following your shepherd with the rest of your sheep-family. The black sheep are forming our own community. And unless you're willing to listen, you're not welcome as far as I'm concerned.
You're going to wake up one day. I understand that you just graduated and haven't looked objectively at what you just experienced yet, but insulting a group of people who could potentially wind up supporting you is just a silly idea.
Good luck "holding people in standard" out here in the "real world." People aren't going to take you very seriously.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "cooltherapy" ---
--- Quote from: "CBK Student" ---lk, Doom got creepy w/ me too! And w/ a few other girls in my graduating class. You think he's all nice until he starts hitting on you and making you uncomfortable! Like he'd tell me he couldn't live w/o me and that he loved me more than anyone in the world! Wtf! that's not okay in my book!!! My adviser put me on P-Bans w/ him but he would still try to break them! I'd be like uhhhh Doom I'm on bans. Soooo awkward...I felt sooooo unsafe w/ him.
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and nice use of the carlbrook lingo "cbk student"
unsafe? really? can we not detach ourselves from this bullshit? if you're going to sit around and bitch about the bs carlbrook put us through, why don't you woman up and start using "grown-up" words?
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She’s relating her experience in her own way. Who are you to tell her how to do that? Loaded Language
cooltherapy:
--- Quote from: "Censored" ---She’s relating her experience in her own way. Who are you to tell her how to do that? Loaded Language
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She's bashing a very good friend of mine and supporting Carlbrook lingo in the process. What's wrong with pointing out why I think it's distasteful, not to mention it being in support of the school that she is so eager to tear to pieces?
RMA Survivor:
Tim Brace was originally at CEDU, a school founded and based on the Synanon, EST and LIfeSpring Cults. He then went to the other CEDU school called RMA in Bonners Ferry, Idaho. I was at RMA during his time there as the director. The stuff he admitted to doing in his past was criminal and horrible and I didn't get the impression he had changed.
Mount Bachelor Academy was started by CEDU/RMA staff. Tim was just one of them. MBA used the same cult system CEDU/RMA were based off of. Isolating kids, barring open and non-supervised communication with the outside world, banning people from speaking to others, forced labor, humiliating group therapy sessions full of screaming abusive insults at each other and peculiar workshops utilizing sleep deprivation, hot/cold temperature control, blaring loud and repetitive music while coercing kids to divulge information about themselves.
MBA, like CEDU/RMA before, were eventually shut down. Investigations determined that the program and it's systematic abuse of teens, the humiliations inflicted upon them, that unlicensed and untrained staff were performing unlicensed therapy based on principles proven to be damaging to people were illegal and/or unethical and they revoked their license. Tim Brace was a part of creating these programs. A part of the abuse. No amount of hugging or other uninvited physical contact such as smooshing can reduce the criminal behavior of Tim Brace and the other people involved in such practices.
You asked if there was proof any of it was illegal? Odds are strong that if Tim Brace is involved with Carlbrook, many of the same practices that were found to be illegal at Mount Bachelor Academy, that got CEDU/RMA shut down from lawsuits and criminal investigations are probably evident at Carlbrook as well. Thus it is likely Carlbrook could be shut down if investigated.
Many of the posters on this site are not recent graduated. Some are. But like myself, we graduated programs twenty or more years ago. It can take years to recognize that you have been abused. Cults have a way of making you believe that what you took part in was good for you and everyone else. There is a time when you "wake up" and that often doesn't happen to those are who still 18-22. It requires a certain self-reflection that is different than the type the program teaches. A level of personal honesty to be able to question what you went through and see it objectively. When I was 18, I didn't think twice about the raps and propheets, the strange exercises we had to endure. I did it, I graduated, I left. But at the age of 41, I can look back at what went on, what we did and I have the education and knowledge to make a neutral decision about it all. I am old enough to be able to recognize what it abuse, what is right, what is wrong, what is helpful, what is not. Society calls this wisdom. And on hindsight, I can say unequivocally that CEDU/RMA were abusive and cruel programs with little merit, and that what I know of Mount Bachelor tells me it was the same. And that because Tim Brace worked at these programs, and now works at Carlbrook, and that because Carlbrook uses many of the same practices, that Carlbrook is also abusive and cruel. No different than the other programs Tim Brace was associated with.
Joel:
Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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