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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2005, 01:23:00 PM »
All of a sudden everyone is perfect little students and not posting? Right.  Cheryl is off in Mexico and has not internet. SHE DOES ALL THE POSTINGS. There is no Elliot...or Whitmore Alumni...or "other former students."
Cheryl's bluff has been called! What a joke. She talks to herself, and hides behind kids' names. She must be the one who spews out all this hate towards Leah, Erica, Zita, and all the other kids. Whew....probably even uses Chris' name too. Thought Tori's mom would fill in for her,...??????
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2005, 01:39:00 PM »
Sue Scheff will be the next inmate at Whitmore.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2005, 01:40:00 PM »
That cunt? You're kidding! Really?  :lol:
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2005, 01:43:00 PM »
Not kidding in the least, my friend. I hear that Bob Litchfield's gonna bend that bitch over in front of the group too!  :rofl:  :wave:
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2005, 01:53:00 PM »
You gotta be kidding. Seems more like Sue Scheff has "teamed" up with Bob Litchfield. Litchfield has filed a suit against ISAC who posted the Statements by Joyce Harris and Leah's grandmother. And from reading the threads under Teen Industry---it appears that Sue Scheff is just giddy with the news, because she wants ISAC to pull the Statment against Whitmore, because the Statements don't flatter Scheff or PURE either. And Sue Scheff was in litagation against WWASP forever!!! But, guess it seems like Scheff will switch sides to fight for Whitmore, or that's how it appears, anyway. That's just my opinion.  NASTY LITTLE MESS.  Now if Sue Scheff fought so hard in court to be able to voice HER OPINIONS about abusive programs, JUST WONDER why she doesn't believe everyone has the same right she has? Doesn't seem fair , now does it?
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2005, 01:54:00 PM »
No shit?!?!?!?! HAHAHAAHA!!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2005, 01:57:00 PM »
I posted under the thread: Teen Industry,
Topic: "Time for some damn answers from PURE."
Just had to respond to someone who said Sue Scheff referred to me as "crazy, evil, liar, and ugly."  Read it there.

Maybe the "hacker" of my computer shared my photographs with Ms. Scheff....because she has never seen me, so how could she have an opinion about my personal appearance?  These people just keep backing themselves into little corners, don't they?
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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »
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You gotta be kidding. Seems more like Sue Scheff has "teamed" up with Bob Litchfield.

But she'll get hers in the end!  :rofl:
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2005, 02:06:00 PM »
I hate hearing that. SHITTY people never get their's in the end (no pun intended).
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2005, 02:16:00 PM »
I believe she will get hers one day. She sold her soul all in the name of greed and power.
Sue Scheff is a transparent, typical SELL OUT that will pay one day..trust me.
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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2005, 02:54:00 PM »
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I hate hearing that. SHITTY people never get their's in the end (no pun intended).

Why do you hate hearing it? Sometimes they ~do in fact get theirs in the end..
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2005, 03:25:00 PM »
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I hate hearing that. SHITTY people never get their's in the end (no pun intended).

Why do you hate hearing it? Sometimes they ~do in fact get theirs in the end.."


Hang onto that thought. Its important.
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2005, 03:50:00 PM »
IF (I said IF) Sue Scheff was the THIRD PARTY  referred to in the ISAC rebuttal, then she was called a liar just as firmly as Mark Sudweeks. This THIRD PARTY told lies about Joyce Harris, and "backed up these lies" by saying these so-called-facts about Joyce Harris were being read from a non-existing police report.

It's not acceptable for people to lie about somebody, and claim they acquired the information from a NON-EXISTING police report.  And when confronted for this type of behavior: IS THIS NOT THE TIME TO STEP FORWARD, AND AT LEAST UTTER TWO LITTLE WORDS TO THIS MOTHER:  
"I'M SORRY."

What made Mark Sudweeks and this THIRD PARTY believe they would not be confronted about thier lies? From the moment these accusations were made, Joyce Harris posted, using her name, denying all accusations that she abused her daughter and that Officer Wright from the Nephi Police Department who escorted the parents to Whitmore could verify that no abuse happend.

Did Mark Sudweeks and this THIRD PARTY believe they could continue to slander this mother without any confrontation?

ISAC published Officer Wright's "Keeping the Peace" report---and it verifies that Joyce Harris did not pull the girl's hair, or abuse her. This report did not exist until ISAC requested a copy of the report from the Harris's. The Harris's called Office Wright that day and asked him to prepare a statement. Therefore--neither Mark Sudweeks, nor the THIRD PARTY could not have have been reading from a police report, BECAUSE no police report existed prior to the request made by the Harris's. Sudweeks and the THIRD PARTY plainly LIED.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2005, 04:10:00 PM »
It seems very unfair that ISAC is being sued by Litchfield/WWASP. And IF Sue Scheff is gleeful about this, that is a shame. Can see that Sue Scheff might have some greed working from referring kids to programs, because a lot of money is made from this. But power--what's that about? What Power? Can't see any power in having a few people maybe believing that she might possibly be performing a bit of "good" in the industry.  But IF Sue has anything, any tiny bit to do with this WWASP suit against ISAC, any respect,---any thought of GOODNESS she might have had in this industry, might just crumble at her feet. We are still talking about kids in abusive programs, aren't we?
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2005, 06:18:00 PM »
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"I believe she will get hers one day. She sold her soul all in the name of greed and power.

Sue Scheff is a transparent, typical SELL OUT that will pay one day..trust me.

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I absolutely disagree w/ this statement. This is, of course, my opinion based on what I know and on what I presume. Call it prescience if it pans out, foolishness if it doesn't.

But here's my take on Sue and PURE at this time. There's not a nickle's worth of difference between PURE and WWASP. I think Sue and the people who support her are every bit as sincere in their beliefs and dedicated to doing what they think is right as the WWASP people.

Now, it may be hard for most people to imagine that people like Peppery Spray Jay could possibly believe in what they do. Or even that our frequent anon poster here could possibly believe in the same cause. But I think they believe it just as strongly as any young Muslim who ever strapped a bomb to himself and detonated it in a crowd of people he deemed to be infidels. (here's to hoping this saga never comes to that! ::cheers:: )

But here's the rediculously funny part. So far, as more information becomes available about just what kind of programs Sue deems to be better than WWASPS programs, they seem to lean less toward the overly regimented, clean cut variety and more toward the more classic image of a hippy love cult. Back in the `70's when this industry really started taking root, one of the specters they used to scare the living shit out of parents was the prospect of their confused and rebellious teenager joining the Manson Family or The Farm (Maggie's farm, per Bob Dylan) or following The Dead or some similar group. These hippy love cults, they said, would lure unsupecting, troubled youths w/ love bombing and Utopian dreams of perfect harmony and communal life and then turn them against their own families. Now, somehow, they're getting parents to pay big bucks to do just that!
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