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Deborah:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... iples.html
They are moving forward with their mission to 'self regulate'. The average parent is not going to know that NATSAP is composed of program owners, that there are no sanctions for violations (except to be kicked out of the club), and that while these 'regulations' appear sufficient on the surface, they are watered down versions of the better state regs and just vague enough to leave a lot of room for their 'special touches'. In effect, they have 'rewritten' state regs to suit themselves.

New Announcement:
Ethical Principals
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... iples.html
Highlight- 11. Fully disclose to prospective candidates the nature of services, benefits, risks, and costs.

Principals of Good Practice
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... iples.html
Highlight- 1.0 ADHERENCE TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS
The program/school shall adhere to all applicable state and federal laws in conducting the operation, including administration, hiring and employee practices, observance of safety regulations, and the care of program participants.

And

2.4.2 Represent facts truthfully to program participants and third- party payers.

And, don't miss Participants Rights on that page.

Behavior Support Management
http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... pport.html
Highlight- 4.4.2 Therapeutic holds should not exceed 30 minutes. If a program participant, placed in a therapeutic hold, is unable to regain control within 30 minutes and the procedure needs to be extended beyond the 30 minutes, the therapeutic hold then rises to the level of a special treatment procedure.
Special Treatment Procedures refer to a specific class of behavioral interventions that restrict the free movement of a child by mechanical or physical means for a prolonged period of time when the child becomes a danger to self and/or others, is destructive of property, or is a serious disruption to the therapeutic environment. Specifically, those interventions are referred to as seclusion, restraint, or more than 30 minutes of a physical hold.

Anonymous:
PS
More on the creation of NATSAP and it's infamous members in the Struggling Teens thread.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... m=40#88249

Antigen:

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http://www.strugglingteens.com/news/nat ... iples.html
They are moving forward with their mission to 'self regulate'. The average parent is not going to know that NATSAP is composed of program owners, that there are no sanctions for violations (except to be kicked out of the club), and that while these 'regulations' appear sufficient on the surface, they are watered down versions of the better state regs and just vague enough to leave a lot of room for their 'special touches'. In effect, they have 'rewritten' state regs to suit themselves.

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I have to respectfully argue with you on this. I'm not sure that state regs are necessarily any better than this. Given my experience, why should I believe that? I'm reminded of Nietzsche aphorism "Distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful". (that goes double for the industry, but they're reading from the same script)

Consumer Union Report has become a touchstone for many industries. Who knows? In another 90 years or so, NATSAP could become a credible source of consumer info.

But I don't think that will happen for two main reasons. #1, if this industry were cleaned up, it wouldn't exist. I believe that. The entire industry exists to sell illusions to parents. Close scrutiny shatters illusions, and so there would be no stock in trade.

Reason #2: In another 20 or 30 years, there will be enough program vets in the business of raising kids that there won't be a market for these illusions, even w/o a competent consumer watchdog group. Ask around, as I have, and you'll find that even people who swear the Program saved their lives don't put their own kids in a program.

This is a fad like blood letting or snake oil. It'll die out, crumbling under it's own weight. I still think it's worthwhile to try and hasten that process, though.

 
The idea of God is the sole wrong for which I cannot forgive mankind.
--Marquis de Sade, French libertine
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Anonymous:
For what they are worth (big disclaimer), some states actually have decent regs. I've read a number of them. The problem is compliance, which will be no different with these 'gentlemens agreements' composed by NATSAP members.

May the fad die a much quicker death.

Cayo Hueso:
These are just some[/b] of the "professional affiliations" listed on various programs on the programs listing page of the NATSAP website.


American Association of Children's Residential Centers
http://www.aacrc-dc.org/

National Association of Psychiatric Health Systems
http://www.naphs.org/

National Private Schools Accreditation Alliance
http://www.npsag.com/

Outdoor Behavioral Industry Council
http://www.obhic.com/

Independent Educational Consultants Association
http://www.educationalconsulting.org/

State Boarding Schools Association
http://www.sbsa.org.uk/

North Central Association Commission on Accreditation and School Improvement
http://www.ncacasi.org/

The National Association of Therapeutic Wilderness Camps
http://www.natwc.org/

Association for Experiential Education
http://www.aee2.org/customer/pages.php?pageid=28

AEE
Therapeutic Adventure Professional Group (TAPG)
http://www.geocities.com/aee_tapg/tapg.html

SECONDARY SCHOOL ADMISSION TEST BOARD
"To Support the Secondary School Admission Process"
http://www.ssatmembers.org/

National Association of Addiction Treatment Providers
http://www.naatp.org/home.php

The International Association of Eating Disorders Professionals
http://www.iaedp.com/

American Holistic Health Association
http://ahha.org/

Alliance Counteracting Alcohol and Tobacco Advertising
http://www.cosancadd.org/acata.shtml

Association of Halfway House Alcoholism Programs of North America, Inc.
http://www.ahhap.org/


UACARP  ???  can't find any info.

UPPN   ???  can't find any info

Utah Private Providers Association  ???  no info









All penalties for drug users should be dropped...Making drug abuse a crime is useless and even dangerous...Every year we seize more and more drugs but the quantity available still increases...Police are losing the drug battle worldwide.


--Raymond Kendall ~ Secretary General of Interpol 1994
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