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Anonymous:
I think it is very evident that the entire system works in concert to assure their individual profits. Their bottom line is increased with each poor baby soul they sell, for this is all about trafficking helpless children to hellish places. I do not for one minute believe that these parents are hapless victims, unaware of what they are doing. They send their children away, not to be helped, but rather to be abused in a manner that they would get arrested for doing themselves. None of these parents are stupid, most of them are highly educated and know fully well what they are doing. Let's be realistic, people from the barrio can't afford to abuse their children by proxy. These parents should be held accountable for what they have subjected their children to. I am a gramma, and not computer literate....it took me about a month to educate myself on the child abuse  industry....so it certainly does not take a rocket scientist. I am sick of hearing about how these programs "duped" the parents. These parents know exactly what they are doing and should be held accountable for what is happening to their children.

Deborah:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=6069&forum=9
NATSAP's creation was funded by a man who is an educational consultant and owns a TBS and Wilderness Program. His programs operated for 7 years and 2 months respectively without proper licensure. The TBS is still not licensed as such. The members agree to abide by the 'ethics' established by the organization. I would not put much faith in that.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=10#64525

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... 9&start=10
As I've learned in my research, BM facilities are attempting to self regulate. They are creating Industry Associations like NATSAP to give the illusion that there is adequate regulation. http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews01.html
This meeting was the result of an earlier exploratory meeting held in Atlanta, Georgia, November 8, 1998 the day after the Independent Educational Consultants Association (IECA) conference in the same city. The Atlanta exploratory meeting had been called by John Reddan, who had written a paper outlining the size and scope of a possible association and asked for and received $5500 from Len Buccellato and Hidden Lake Academy in Dahlonega, Georgia to travel to ten programs in nine states and to host the meeting at the Atlanta Hilton.
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Members pledge to follow rules that were created by other members-owners/manager of programs. How ridiculous?
And they present this organization to potential clients as an independent entity to give the impressions that they are regulated.
Look at their BODs:
BOARD MEMBERS:
Michael Allgood, Cascade School, California, 3-year term
Tim Brace, Aspen Youth Services, California, 3-year term
Len Buccellato, Hidden Lake Academy, Georgia, 3-year term
Bobbi Christensen, Crater Lake School, Oregon, 3-year term
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#29235
Kimbal DeLaMare, Island View, Utah, 2-year term
Gary Emmons, Brush Ranch School, New Mexico, 2-year term
John Mercer, Mission Mountain School, 2-year term
Jan Moss, Spring Ridge Academy, Arizona, 3- year term
John Santa, Montana Academy, Montana, 3-year term
Rosemary Tippett, Three Springs, Alabama, 3-year term.
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The facilties that are members of NATSAP appear to want to distinquish themselves from the lowly types like WWASP. But they are no different, just more covert with their abuse. Policies are very similar.
Other links to NATSAP:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... ews03.html
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een02.html
?NATSAP is a 501(C)(6) trade association of one hundred and ten (110) boarding schools, residential treatment centers, wilderness programs, and group homes in twenty-eight states.?

Their real purpose is to advocate for public policy that enhances their operations. They fought against regulations for "escort services" in Ca.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... een03.html
A section at the end of the bill would ensure that the only way an out-of-control youngster could be transported to a program to get the kind of help that is needed, is with that youngster?s permission.
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Funny, I sent a complaint to NATSAP about the facility I had dealings with. Little did I know the program owner facilitated the creation of NATSAP. Any surprise that I never got a response?

[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2005-03-15 21:00 ]

Anonymous:
This information needs to get to the public. Is there any way to get it to pop up when people look for schools on-line? It's really hard to determine who is worse, the facilities themselves, the Ed Cons who recommend them, NATSAP which covers and lobbys for them or the parents who fall for the snow job.

alternativa:
Three Springs took over New Dominion School for Boys and New Dominion School for Girls in Va. Courts are ordering kids to these facilities and the state pays for it (at least very often).

My step-daughter (who teaches in the public school system) has a friend from college who recently started working at New Dominion. I would be more than happy to e-mail her to e-mail him, but is there something specific or pointed I should ask? She is a very progressive educator and wouldn't go for this type of thing. Moreover, since she's recently out of college, she might know someone who teaches at Carlbrook.

Antigen:
No, I'd say just get in touch and make yourself available.
Peace and abstinence from European interferences are our objects, and so will continue while the present order of things in America remain uninterrupted.
--Thomas Jefferson
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