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Tha Truth:
TO ALL CONTRIBUTORS PAST/PRESENT OF THIS FORUM

Ok, I've glanced through this site a couple of times and honestly- it gives me a headache. There is so much ridiculous he said/she said and all the topics run in circles. I'm here to (hopefully) help clarify things in some peoples minds. I'm speaking to people on both sides of the table. First-  personal threats, name-calling, and revealing personal information is not only childish but it's wrong. No one on this site, whether they are for the Whitmore or  against it, should expect to be taken seriously when they do things like that. To parents, friends, aquaintances, and random people signing on and joining "the cause": Do not make radical accusations based on second or third hand information. You should be as sure as you can before handing out accusations. Do not harp on one particular point again and again. That will not accomplish anything. These verbal catfights are ridiculous and pointless.
To the people posting from the Whitmore:
Please stop with the ridiculous identity changes. Multiple posts came from the same ip address and every single one said it was from a different person. Granted, a few different students could've used the same computer, but some were claiming to be parents and alumni. That's just ridiculous. It's almost embarrassing how obvious it is when you do that. Please believe that no one who will actually be of any consequence in this "dispute" is buying into those games. The same goes for non-Whitmore contributors. This two-faced, back-biting, junior-high, style of communication has got to go. I hear a lot of preaching here about how people need to grow up and get lives...well, it could all be solved when one side decides to be the better person- and chooses to walk away. Pride dropped. Think about it, there's a lot of accusations flying around but people are making their word meaningless because of how many lies are being told for the sake of covering up. That makes the original sin that much worse. Step back and take a look at this for what it is. Not only will the truth find you out, but it can set you free- if you let it.
-One Love

Anonymous:
Amen... One Love, couldn't have said it better!

Ps... If you have the time, patience and asprin- take a look. The parents always post without name calling, crudeness and obsenity.  I agree the whole forum has become a frenzy of endless chatter to take everyone off the original path of purpose.  You have a point... time to give it a rest.  I think there is enough information here for most to form an opionion.  Credibility lies in how one presents themselves.  All one really has to do is look at the multitude of threads created in the past 3 days. Obviously there is some desperation going on in the Mansion.

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2005-03-12 07:34:00, Tha Truth wrote:

well, it could all be solved when one side decides to be the better person- and chooses to walk away.

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I don't think that's going to happen, nor should it. There are some damned serious allegations here. I might not be so inclined to believe the stories about violence, except that I've seen threats of violence made against kids who dare to speak of it.

If you want to take the time (and, I agree, the aspirin) to look things over, the people who are getting threatened are not making any really outrageous, horrible accusations. They're only saying essentially what you are; that they love the place, they love and miss the friends they made there, it helped them, but that things sometimes got out of hand. And I think the way they describe things getting out of hand is pretty consisistant w/ the behavior that I've seen demonstrated here.

So while I'm not entirely convinced that I know all about what's going on there, it is concerning. If some of these kids were abused as has been described here, why should they walk away? Why should they keep quiet and let it happen to others?

I also wonder what's going on there now, why the sudden onslought and why the avid interest from our new anon friend. BTW, it does look asif this really is a new person coming onto this issue. I could guess how they came by their initial interest, but I'd just be guessing. I've asked, I sort of got blown off. But it's really up to that person whether or not they want to give a little more detail.



There is so much in the bible against which every insinct of my being rebels, so much so that I regret the necessity which has compelled me to read it through from beginning to end. I do not think that the knowledge I have gained of its history and sources compensates me for the unpleasant details it has forced upon my attention.
--Helen Keller, American lecturer
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Anonymous:
Can a question be asked from a calm, unemotinal stance? Why would Sue Scheff of P.U.R.E. continue to refer children to the Whitmore Academy while the owners, Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks are still being investigated for child abuse? Regardless of her opinion that she supports them 100%, would not the professional v iew, and the best interest of any child's placement be to NOT place any child at the Whitmore Academy until:   Scheff is told by the County Attorney Jared Eldridge, and the Detective in charge of the investigation, Justin Kimball,--- that the investigation is officially closed, and that all allegations of abuse against the Sudweeks have been formally dropped?

 These two men will surely show the Sudweeks the curtesy of publicly announcing when the case is officially closed. That is how it is done in most jurisdictions. Or at least, the Sudweeks' attorney would be allowed to publicly make the announcement for the benefit of the Sudweeks.

No one, especially a person like Sue Scheff-- who must consider the best interest of children,should allow their support of the Sudweeks to cloud their judgement. No one can ever trust another person 100% as she states she supports the Sudweeks.  Otherwise, married couples would never divorce over adultry; nor would business partners split over breach of contract.

Why would Ms. Scheff continue to place children at Whitmore Academy after she was made aware the Sudweeks were, and are being investigated for child abuse? Even if there is the tinest, tinest chance these allegations are true, how will she answer her critics?

Cayo Hueso:
That's a really good question.  Good luck getting any kind of an answer though.  We've asked and asked and what we're generally met with is something along the lines of "we trust Sue and Sue trusts Mark and Cheryl".  Mark and Cheryl deny any abuse, Sue believes them, PURE believes Sue.  That's it.  No other explanation has ever been offered to my knowledge.  
Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.
--Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
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