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Erinys:
Yes, that is very unsettling. Particularly in light of  some statements made here to the effect of:

The Nephi police hate the Whitmore...

The people in Canada have it in for the Sudweeks...

People in Mexico want to kill us...

Consider too, that one of the precipitating factors of the horror in Guayana was Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple coming under investigation.
I doubt the students at the Whitmore remember this story, since it happened before they were born. I hope their parents do!
I didn't intend for this to take on a political tone, I'm just here for the drugs.
--First Lady, Nancy Reagan at a Just Say No rally
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Antigen:
Ok, I have to reel this in some. Looking at it again, maybe I was being a bit alarmist. There are always hundreds of weird little cults in this or any other country. Most of them don't get a following of over 900 and then off themselves. Hell, most of them don't even get a following of a dozen or so and off themselves like Heaven's Gate did. But it's still worth examining whether or not the Sudweeks are running a cult and what usually does happen to people who get trapped in them.

A very handy, convienient example of what normally happens can be found right next door in the Seed discussion forum. Those people have a LOT in common w/ Whitmore, imo. They focused on troubled teens. Most spent a year or so getting the gift of enlightenment and then went on to more or less decent adult lives. (some more or less than others) Some didn't. Some spent decades; their productive years, their would have been marrying and child rearing years; before the thing fell apart in a relatively quiet and peaceful manner. It's still quite tragic, though.

And I'll be the first to say that, from what little I know, it's probably not as bad as some other groups I've read about lately. But I just think people ought to know going in just what it is.
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence.

--Charles Austin Beard
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Cayo Hueso:

--- Quote ---On 2005-03-17 18:57:00, Antigen wrote:

"Ok, I have to reel this in some. Looking at it again, maybe I was being a bit alarmist.
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Maybe, maybe not.  Stranger things have happened, but I sure don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility to question whether or not these kids are being moved out of the country for a little longer than a 'vacation' :???: .
The most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of
knowledge among the people. No other sure foundation can be devised, for the preservation of freedom and happiness.

--Thomas Jefferson
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Antigen:
Yeah, I wonder about whether or not they're coming back.
The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective.




--Brave New World Revisited, Aldous Huxley, 1958
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Anonymous:
Sudweeks are taking those kids to Mexico, not some far distant land!  Once before the Mexican authorities sent them packing because the Suds didn't have proper papeerwork to stay an extended period with that many kids. Those parents SHOULD be checking to assure themselve of just WHAT IS GOING ON.
BUT, the Mexico authorities will work with parents...and will allow those kids to be held against the will of the paents.
BUT there lies the problem--I suppose: What IF the Suds decide to stay down there..try to avoid the investigations still going on in Utah etc?
AND--What IF these parents--who seem to support the Suds, and continue to ignore the criminal allegations, buy into that?
Does sound scary.
From the postings here--things do seem to get out of hand for these kids when the Suds have kids off on these "trips" away from any authorities. I'd be mighty concerned, I sure would be.

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