Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore
What Do You Wish To Believe?
Gmom:
Come back here in six months and see if you feel the same way. When you live the life 24/7 you begin to think that is "normal" and okay. It's after you have been away and think back you begin
to see that is "normal" of "healthy" or "right."
You said the Sudweeks did some bad things. That is not acceptable. That is not okay. That is not a right that they have. It is really that simple.
Gmom:
THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. NOR IS IT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS OR ANYONE ELSES. ATTACKING LEAH OR ANY OTHER KID, WHO IS OR WHO HAS BEEN AT THE WHITMORE, WILL NOT CHANGE THE ISSUES OF ABUSE, FRAUD, ETC. TRY SPEAKING TO THOSE.
Gmom:
I'M SORRY YOU KIDS AT THE WHITMORE ARE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME. BUT SOONER OR LATER, IF NOT ME, IT WILL BE SOMEONE ELSE. WHAT THE SUDWEEKS DO IS WRONG. GO TO THE POLICE, CALL THE CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. GO ALONE OR GO AS A GROUP.
THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.
Antigen:
One other question/statement.
--- Quote ---On 2005-03-12 02:14:00, Mr. Bean wrote:
You have to understand that there is no such thing as a perfect place that helps troubled teens, never has and never will be.
--- End quote ---
That has been my contention all along. Like a lot of these troubled teen programs, the Whitmore is marketed as a kinder, gentler, better alternative to some of the more abusive places. You probably already knew that. What you might not know is that damned near all of these places say exactly the same thing about themselves and others. As recently as last week, I heard from an adult that Hidden Lake Academy is kinder and gentler than The Seed. But if you ask a dedicated Seedling (and you can find a few posting to the Seed forum on this server, my brother among them) The Seed was nothing but goodness and love, w/ maybe a mistake or two. Essentially just as you describe the Whitmore. But then you can also find people who found the whole experience to be horrific and who had problems owing to it for years afterward.
Well my question, going back a couple of years now, is this. What exactly is this better alternative? How does it work? How is a parent supposed to know the difference between one program's claims of superiority and all the others?
How does it "work"? How does a kid, taken there against their will, come to change w/o the kind of forced behavior mod techniquies we're all so familiar with? And, maybe more importantly, why are these kids attacking each other now?
Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright
--- End quote ---
Anonymous:
"A gentlier, kinder program" is only one place, a NON-WWASP program. It is that simple.
And how can group therapy, led by a non-therapist with the focus being on one kid with the point of the "GROUP SESSION" being to humiliate that one kid and possible to physically abuse the kid?
There is no confidentialy. Each kid must "confess" why he/she was brought to Whitmore, and many feel a need to "add to the confession if they don't appear to be BAD ENOUGH."
Parents are told the PROGRAM works one way, when in actuality it works the opposite. The contract states there will be no physical abuse of anykind for discipline, and there IS. When all communication is MONITORED, then the parents are highly criticized for NOT KNOWING. The school is advertised one way and presented by the honest-seeming referral company as THE BEST--then it is NOT. It is a vicious circle. Then after-the-fact, when parents complain, file criminal charges the parents are held up as lunatics, vindictive, and WORSE. How does the cycle end? New, uninformed parents just fill the void of the WISER parents who got their kids out.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version