i dont kno bout marty,, but gottliebs policy was to lay u down,, face in the corner,, and have 2 pos,, 1 stepping on your neck,, the other holding your legs,, if you resisted past that,, your were stood up ,, still face to corner,,and givin a few minutes worth of kidney shots.then assumes the original position,,was fairlty effective,, wonder if he picked that up from str8s? or ss