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« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2005, 10:15:00 AM »
JUST DO NOT TALK TO THIS WOMAN PERIOD!
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« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2005, 07:06:00 PM »
Virginia Reiss, details about what?
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2005, 02:47:00 PM »
Jon,
Can you define what you do consider abuse?
Would you let Sue Scheff send YOUR KID to one of these programs?
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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2005, 08:40:00 PM »
Absolutely, if I had a kid out of control who needed help, I would be thankful to know the good people at New Horizons would be available to help out.  They are good people, and the program works better than most any other solution available.  I thank New Horizons for what they did to help me.
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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2005, 10:40:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/search.php?term=new horizons&addterms=phrase&forum=all&sortby=p.post_time+desc&searchboth=both&submit=Search'>new horizons

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« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2005, 12:44:00 PM »
:question: I came upon this website by chance while looking for a suitable school to send my nephew.I clicked onto Glacier Mountain Academy and this website came up. My nephew is 14 and is a troubled teen. No police record, just failing in grades and difficult. We live in Mississippi. Does any one know of a school here we can take a serious look at?
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« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2005, 01:33:00 PM »
Failing grades and being difficult are unfortunately symptoms of being a teenager.  Take hiim on a trip yourself.  Go camping for a few weeks (if you can afford the tuition for these "schools" you can afford to take a couple weeks off.)  More than likely he'll grow out of it.

Sending a kid to one of these places will damage him for life.  Why people turn to strangers to "fix" their kid is beyond me.
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« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2005, 02:01:00 PM »
Maybe the source of the problem is not the kid at all? Maybe there's something going on at the school that he could just use a little adult guidance and perspective in handling. Please, don't underestimate the devistating effect on a kid when the adults in his life view him as a problem to be shipped off.

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« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2005, 07:40:00 PM »
Auntie, read all the posting on the Who Am I Discovery thread. That will give you insight into the type of "schools" Sue Scheff/PURE gets paid to send kids to. The owner has been charged with child abuse (7 counts) against 4 kids. And Ms. Scheff still supports these abusive owners.
And read the WWASP vs PURE transcripts available here to get some insight into how non-trutful Ms. Scheff can be on a deposition.

Good luck with your nephew, and please do not place him in some wilderness program, or long-term treatment program!
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« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2005, 09:32:00 PM »
Can someone please post the link to the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts?  Is it on Fornits or the ISAC?

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« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2005, 09:47:00 AM »
Wouldn't trust Sue Scheff to refer my dog to a boarding kennel for the weekend.
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« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2005, 05:51:00 PM »
If all you're worried about is "nephew is 14 and is a troubled teen. No police record, just failing in grades and difficult.", you shouldn't be looking at any programs like Glacier Mountain.  Step one is always to find out what is "going on".  Step two is to try to address it at home, probably with professional help (LCSW, psychologist), being ready to participate in family therapy, as whatever "problems" there are may well take the family to address.

Many, if not most, teens are "difficult".  Failing in grades could be due to any number of things.  I believe in the value of a good residential therapeutic school, but it should be the last choice, never the first.  And, if you ever do need one, you need to match issues with school.
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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2005, 06:11:00 AM »
i just pulled up info on glacier mountain , im trying to have my son go there .we live in delaware, and ive spoken to the owner . it all sounds like i want this for my son . if anyone can fill me in it be great i dont want my son in an enviroment so far away that isnt helping him
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« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2006, 04:22:00 PM »
I went to Glacier Mountain Academy for a little less than a year before my mother took me out because neither of us thought that it was helping me. My mother talked to Sue Scheff about this school so she thought it was pretty good.
Here are some of my experiences and things that I saw while I was there:
Larry Bauer is the head of the program and says that he councels us one on one every week or so. We all got counceled I think twice the entire time that I was there.
Ramona and Matt Slover were the house parents while I was there and I saw with my own eyes Matt hold one boy against the wall by his neck and yell at him because he ate the applesauce with sugar when he wasn't supposed to have sugar. I heard of other things from the kids but that's all I saw.
Robert was our martial arts "instructor" and eventually they let him take us fishing and on other excursions. On more than one occasion, he smoked marijuana in front of us and shared it with myself and the other kids. Matt later confessed to me that he knew that Robert smoked weed and suspected that he might be doing it with us.
Jack is the "teacher" at Glacier Mountain Academy and is good friends with Larry Bauer. Every day we did actual lessons for about 30 to 40 minutes, even though we were at school for 5 or 6 hours every day. The rest of the time was spent playing Nintendo and watching movies while Jack did paperwork or talked on the phone in the other room.
There were 3 bedrooms for the kids in the house that we stayed in. There were 12 people living in the house at the same time. 9 of them were kids (including myself) two were Matt and Ramona, and the last was their son, David, who lived in the basement.

There is more if you want you can email me at [email protected]. I'm sure that my mother wouldn't mind talking to you either about what she went through.[ This Message was edited by: hawaiianguy3 on 2006-01-09 13:24 ]
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« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2006, 01:03:00 PM »
Sounds like a place Sue Scheff would refer to. Is this another place she "checked out" before referring kids there?
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