Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > EdCons and referring organizations and agencies
Beware of referrals by Sue Scheff
Antigen:
That was before she set up a competitive referral operation.
Here's a thread about the programs to which Sue Scheff / PURE allegedly has referred people:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=8061&forum=9
My understanding is that those program names came from the WWASP v PURE docket. I don't know of any reason why WWASP would have subpoenaed records from these places except for that they believed that Sue had referred people to them. Of course, they may have been mistaken. So there's your grain of salt to give real weight and meaning to my use of the term "allegedly". I would love it if people would step right up and confirm or refute my assumptions, but I don't hold out much hope.
Among these listed programs is New Horizons Youth Ministries. There's a lot of material out there about that one. Here's a thread I started about 2 years ago:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=5305&forum=9
And here's one about a book written by Julia Scheeres; Jesus Land.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#90801
I just read it recently. It's a good book. It's not just another telling of a fucked up program. It's a memoir of this woman's childhood and homage to her well loved and dearly departed brother. He didn't die in the program, as I had assumed when I heard about the book; just so there is not misunderstanding followed by adding then removing David's name from various lists and such.
It's a good read and well describes an extremely abusive program. Now, if the allegation is correct that Sue Scheff did (does?) sent(d) kids to this place, I'd still like to have an answer to that one of my most irritating questions; what is the essential difference between WWASP and PURE.
Education is that which remains, if one has forgotten everything he learned in school.
--Albert Einstein, Out of My Later Years, 1950
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Anonymous:
Struggling Teens Discussion Forum
Topic: "hire an ed con or not"
Poster: Mose
Anonymous:
Sue Scheff definitely refers to Whitmore Academy, and is/was paid by the owners.
Sue Scheff continued to refer children to Whitmore Academy after the investigation for child abuse was underway against the owners, Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks. Sue Scheff criticized parents she referred to Whitmore Academy publicly who accused the Sudweeks of abusing thier children.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-04-21 09:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Struggling Teens Discussion Forum
Topic: "hire an ed con or not"
Poster: Mose"
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Mose is still posting at ST? God, some of these ex program parents need to get a life - her kid has been out of a program a long time, IIRC.
Joyce Harris:
the "essential difference between WWASP and PURE?"
I don't see any essential differences:
Both lie and say they don't make any money:
WWASP claims to be "non-profit" and PURE has a big ole STATEMENT "NO COSTS TO PARENTS"....both trying to con parents into thinking they are offering thier fine services for NOTHING!
Both send children away to some abusive programs that deny children a real education, contact with their parents for long extended periods, for behavior modification that has been provent to be ineffective, if not harmful.
Both use escort services. Enough said there.
I think these two organizations appear to be more like "competitors" than anything else.
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