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Beware of referrals by Sue Scheff

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hawaiianguy3:
DJ, I won't be telling the authorities anything about the program because they fixed those problems. I don't know who Ms. Sudweeks is. If she is the new houseparent, I've never met her. While I was there Matt and Ramona Slover were the houseparents and they were not good. Apparently they left for reasons unknown to me. See, I left the program, went home to New York, then came back to Idaho to live here because I like it here. I heard from a couple of reliable sources that they no longer work there. As far as the drug thing goes, Matt Slover is the one who reccomended Robert to Larry Bauer. Larry did not know anything about him until it was too late. The problems that were occurring while I was there had I'df say 80% to do with Matt and Ramona Slover, who are now gone.
HOWEVER, Larry Bauer, who is the one with the actual psychology license, had almost absolutely nothing to do with the kids who were in the program. If he did, then he would know about all this stuff I mentioned earlier. ALSO, Larry ordered Matt and Ramona to make the program look good when Sue Scheff was coming, so again, Sue Scheff did NOT know about these things, but she should have looked further into the program when she came.
The problem, I think, is that both Larry Bauer and Sue Scheff are both not comitted enough to what they do. Larry, I believe is just in this job for the money and expects everything to go fine and doesn't want to be bothered with the kids and other problems.
Antigen, I don't know what LGAT is. If you tell me, I'll be happy to answer your question.

Antigen:
Oh, ok. Here's a quick rundown.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eldon.braun/awa ... lgat1.html


Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits.
--Dan Barker, author and former evangelist
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hawaiianguy3:
Well, reading about LGAT, I would have to say no. We did not do anything like that. All we ever really did for improving ourselves was a group session, I believe it was every week or twice a week, but I can't really remember, where we all sat around in the living room and talked about things like what people need to improve on or what was getting on people's nerves about other people. we actually never really talked about our personal experiences at home about why we were there, though. Every month or so, each boy would go in with Matt and Ramona and talk about that kind of stuff, but that's about it.
The basic way that the program worked while I was there was this:
When you got there you were level 1. You had very limited rights and hardly any responsibilities. Every few weeks you would be evaluated in the group sessions that I spoke of earlier by Matt, Ramona, and the other boys, then they woul;d tell you if you could move up another level. Once you got to the end of level 4 and they said that you were doing good, then you graduated.
Many kids graduated without even getting to level 4, myself included, just so they could tell parents "this many kids have graduated the program, so it works".

Antigen:
Thanks. And, btw, don't let anybody  around here mess w/ you about declaring allegience or anything. Well, you can't stop them from messin' w/ you, but you don't have to pay any mind.

I still gots questions, though.

On the lower phases, were you allowed to freely talk w/ the other kids?

How much influence did the kids have in deciding whether or not someone moved up? And how'd that work out for them?

What was the security like? Were you physically locked in or guarded from leaving? Or was it just about 'no place to go' and the law?


Redemption: Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sins through the murder of their deity against whom they sinned.
--Ambrose Bierce
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hawaiianguy3:
We could talk to the other kids when we got there. They encouraged us to so that we felt more comfortable. Actually, the first day I was there they asked me to start talking to this one kid who didn't really have any friends and no one really liked him.
When we got moved up levels, it wasn't a voting thing with the kids or anything, but Matt would ask all the kids what thgey thought about so and so moving up, and whoever wanted to would say what they thought or if that kid had done anything bad or good lately or if they had improved at all. The higher level kids were kind of required to give some input on the situation, but the overall decision was up to Matt Slover, who, I might add, had no kind of license in the profession. Ramona was the one with the license.
As far as security goes, there was practically none. It was just a regular house, and Matt and Ramona spent most of their time in their own living room watching TV or whatever. Two kids ran away together the first week they were there while Matt and Ramona were in the other room, and they didn't figure it out until about an hour later. Another kid ran away 3 times the first week and a half he was there. Another kid kept threatening suicide, ran away twice, and cut his wrist with a serrated butter knife. Matt and Ramona embarrassed him in front of us other kids and in public saying that he wasn't really trying to kill himself and that it was just a cut. Even though this might have been true, that he wasn't really trying to kill himself, that conversation should have been kept between them.

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