Letha Yost and others use to tell us in Atlanta how easy we had it compared to the Florida groups. We were told that in the old days, that would be prior to Dec 83, there were peanut butter diets, regualr beatings, people had to wear 'humble pants', and worse.
It was a tool for making us 'appreciative' of our own personal set of tortures.
The torture didn't go away after Fred's lawsuit, it just became something that was more subtle and underground at least in Atlanta.
Also the Atlanta ACLU and DHS was fighting the program i nthe early eighties, they interviewed me sometime in 1984 over dinner one night, but I re-entered the group before they could track me down for a lawsuit.