Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Who Am I Discovery/Whitmore
getting abused at the whitmore
kathopper:
I'm glad people are asking why parents choose to drop a problem child off with the nearest professional (fill in your own finger-quotes). But the self-righteous tone of some of these anonymous posters is pissing me off. Just like 007's asinine rant about cocktail-swilling socialites, your blanket assumptions are entirely off base and (just as entirely) unhelpful.
In the interest of full disclosure (an interest I wish more of you shared), I am Tha Truth's older sister. She was sent to the Whitmore when she was about fifteen; I have mixed feelings about my parents' decision then as now. But let me tell you who my parents are and who they are not. I understand that I can only speak for one actual case, but I feel that that has more value than an infinite number of speculations.
My parents have been married for twenty-nine years; they have six children. For those of you pining for the picket-fence days, we come pretty close to the Moral Majority's ideal family. Dad worked, Mom stayed home, we went to church. And, Antigen, we were home-schooled. Our parents were and are deeply thoughtful people who are not susceptible to fads (which, of course, psychologism has been judged to be for a couple decades now).
All the misty-eyed nostalgia and half-baked theories must take into account that human beings don't and haven't ever worked according to one philosophy, one equation, or one recipe. We are infinitely complex. Rich, poor, ignorant, educated, neglected, loved--none of these factors determines what a person becomes. Five of the children in my family did OK; one of us became determinedly destructive.
What do you do when, despite discipline, "toughing it," counseling, cajoling, and, finally, asking for professional help, your child persists in endangering herself and everyone around her? No one--grandparents, pastors, friends--knew what to do. She was mixing pills and alcohol and having sex with strangers in exchange for drugs. Our family was falling apart; we were being physically threatened; we were cruising the streets in the middle of the night trying to find her. I defy you to live with this and come up with a glib solution. It doesn't exist.
Raise six children on one small paycheck. Pay bills, fix cars, run errands, fight your self-doubt, try to please God, discipline, listen, consider, nurture, worry. My parents agonized over what to do with Anneliese. They sent her away because they didn't have anything left to try. There were no shrugs or deep sighs of relief. Do you understand despair?
Anonymous:
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"Mary, you should also get Chris to tell you his eye witness account of Joey's abuse at Lake Powell. Chris's account of it is just heart-breaking the way he recounts the details and the injuries Joey suffered. We were horrified by Chris's account of these abuses against this boy, and shocked that Chris said Cheryl Sudweeks instructed the kids to mistreat Joey in such an inhumane, criminal manner."
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Better yet mother MARY, why don't you come to court....If tweaker doesn't cop a plea.see for yourself....all the crap put on the ledge.....judge for yourself.....nudge judge ROY?.......AMF
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-16 17:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You and Joey's parents could comfort each other as you relive these horrible nightmares or your son's abuse--YOURS at Ivy Ridge....and Joey's at Whitmore."
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WHAT?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2005-06-16 18:45:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2005-06-16 18:12:00, Anonymous wrote:
What used to be called the anti-drug movement is now called the "emotional growth" movement.
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Exactly! It's an extremely maliable concept. Whatever parents are afraid of, you just sploodge a little TC style "therapy" on it and *poof* the problem dissapears like a stubborn stain when you spray it w/ Shout!
The Seed cropped up in Ft. Lauderdale in the Summer of Manson. What were parents afraid of them? Why, pot smoking, rock concert going, war protesting, long haired commie hippies. Art played to that.
What are parents afraid of now? Just take a moment to scan the tabloid headlines and unmute the tv whenever you see an Oprah or Dr. Phil ad. Why, in no time at all, you'll be fully qualified and prepared to write ad copy for the troubled parent industry.
It's such a damned simple formula; that along w/ the pyramid marketing model that's not quite, but almost the legal definition and the RTC, no school, no boot camp, no wilderness, no equine therapy... No, not therapy at all! Why, mr licensing man, anyone can plainly see that this is just your typical boarding school. No different from any other family.... I mean faculty, not family... that's just those silly overly entheusiastic kids talking.... Ya' know, they just love it so much here, that's why they sound like they're all on the verge of a mass nervous breakdown. Nothing funny going on here at all, nope! Not here! Look somewhere else!
One born every minute...
Real criminals walk free every day to rape, rob, and murder again because the courts are so busy finding consensual criminals guilty of hurting no one but themselves.... To free cells for consensual criminals, real criminals are put on the street every day.
Anonymity Anonymous
return undef() if /coercion/i;"
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Yep, along with drugging their 6 year olds into compliance with the expectations and demands of their teachers, parents can send their teens to a "specialty boarding school" to forcibly raise their emotional IQ.
Adolescence: No longer a rite of passage but a social disease.
Antigen:
Kathopper, I understand your anger here. But try and put yourself in the shoes of someone who had NO idea anything like this industry existed, or even could exist, in this age and place. It's practically incomprehensible that anybody could fall for this. But then, consider all the people who get jacked by rediculously stupid investment frauds and are just too mortified to even tell their friends and family.
It's amazing what people will fall for, including inteligent, reasonable people of character, when they're desperate.
Finally, what would I do? I guess if I didn't know better, I might have sent my daughter off for her own good and the good of the family. The only reason I didn't is that I DO know better because I lived it. These people are just selling promises they can't possibly keep. It's little different from the Earnest Angley slapping people on the forehead and pleading for $2 million to get him into heaven.
I understand the desperation, and I understand why people fall for it. And there is no glib answer that I can offer as an alternative. What did we do? We stole moments w/ our daughter when we could, tried to dodge the psycho boyfriend, didn't let him bait us into war w/ our daughter. We toughed it out, that's all, just like parents used to do before Chuck Dederich ever devised this grand scheme and sold it to NIDA as the panacea against the youth movement of the late `60's.
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
--Denis Diderot, French encyclopedist
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