Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones
Carlbrook-CEDU connection?
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Posted: 2006-01-04 05:57:00
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Very nicely written. I'm sorry that you had to have this awful experience.
I have been saying since this program opened that it would take some time to get a realistic perspective from a former patient because it takes about a year for the reality of what you experienced to settle into your now adult mind.
The experiences you were led to believe would be helpful seemed hurtful, but the developing mind is unable to stave off the constant reeducation of indoctrination. There will be many more stories of abusive, unfair, unethical and nonsensical treatment that young patients were forced to endure at the hands of uneducated hacks, pseudo-psychotherapists, new-age pop psyche counselors, bm dominators and generally unbalanced people who subscribe to the program's methods.
It's unfortunate that people still refer to these RTC's as "schools," as it is abundantly clear that Carlbrook, like its predecessors, is nothing more than a BM warehouse whose primary purpose is conformity, NOT education. While they perpetrate fraud on desperate parents, they abuse the young patients with same methods used by their fellow programs: bait and punish, instill hopelessness, foster dependency, extirpate individuality, forced confessions, forced labor, forced medication, isolation, instilled fear, and no therapy by qualified professionals.
Their use of LGAT seminars on unstable children is appalling. This is an extremely dangerous, demonstrably ineffective and damaging practice.
Once more, I am deeply troubled about your experience at Carlbrook. You may rest assured, however, that the more data and personal accounts that are provided about the abuse heaped on children there bring Carlbrook ever closer to legal reckoning and inevitable closure.
It's going to take some time, but eventually they will be regulated by enforceable laws, stung with personal injury lawsuits and caught committing illegal acts against children in their care, just as nearly every single one of these programs has in the past.
Try to hang in there, get yourself right and, when you can, do what you are able to help future patients avoid the experience you had.
Good luck. Keep in touch.
try another castle:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-04 06:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
"2006-01-04 01:27:00
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Thank you so much for posting this. I was getting really sick of all the pro-Carlbrook crap from supposed alumni and satisfied parents, which pretty much sounded like it was all coming from the same person.
I'm all for dissent regarding the validity of programs, but the "people" who defended carlbrook all sounded alike, refused to answer or address questions posed to them by other fornits' members, and I felt like I was the designated dupe in a mirrors trick.
Welcome to the "disorientation" phase of deprogramming. i.e. the part where you start to feel really depressed and isolated and try to use the tools you learned at school to help your situation, but sadly, realize that they have lost their "magic" that they seemed to have had within the environment of the campus.
I call it the disorientation phase because this is the point where you go "what the fuck?" As in, "what the fuck happened?" and "what the fuck am I supposed to do now?" and "what the fuck is going on in my head?"
Followed closely by the "why the fuck"s. As in, "why the fuck do I feel so miserable?" and "why the fuck is it so hard for me to make friends and act properly with others?" and "why the fuck do I feel so alone?"
Then you'll get mad, and go through the "who the fuck?"s as in "who the fuck did those people think they were, anyway?" and "who the fuck's idea was it to 'help' teens in this manner?" and "who the fuck is ever going to understand what I went through?"
I went to RMA, part of the CEDU schools. One of your deans, Tim Brace, was the headmaster of my school when I went there. He was a weepy, melodramatic git who talked out of his ass most of the time and had no grasp on reality.
Based on alumni's descriptions of the Carlbrook curriculum, it sounds a lot like a fancy, prep-school version of the CEDU education.
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Why are you copying what I wrote in another thread? Are you not capable of your own thoughts?
I'm flattered that you like what I wrote, but seriously, do your own work, or I will send you to the principal's office for plagarism.
If you are quoting me, than please make it more obvious that you are doing so. That's what the quote tags are for.
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[ This Message was edited by: sorry... try another castle on 2006-01-14 18:44 ]
Anonymous:
"Oh I liked my high school" "No your highschool sucked, somebody there was mean to me they wouldn't let me have my drugs'
What's obvious people. This program like a lot of others discussed at this site was (overall) positive for some kids not so for others.
Too many people acting like the answers are black and white. Like anybody who believes they got something from that school must be brainwashed. It's just as immature when somebody who's doing well is saying that their school program is the only, the one-and-only way to change. Only I don't hear this so much so it makes me think that the negative posters are more immature.
Anyway it's all a big yawn. If I talked this much about my highschool ten years later I'd be looking for more to do with my present life.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-01-04 15:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
""Anyway it's all a big yawn. If I talked this much about my highschool ten years later I'd be looking for more to do with my present life."
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Why then do you continue posting about cedu?
Stop inflating your pathetic ego, because you're no better than anyone else who posts here!
What's really obvious here, is that you have absolutely no grasp of reality. The truth is that Cedu is abusive, and hurts a lot more people than it helps. That's the reason why you don't see many posters saying that cedu is "the one and only way to change"; because most people aren't stupid enough to believe that shit!
If you're tired of seeing cedu bashed (deservedly so), then leave, go to sleep already, or better yet buy a gun and blow your fucking brains out! No one here gives a shit about a loser like you anyways!
Anonymous:
thats because the people who went there have better things to do with their lives than sit in some fuck forum all day and bitch about how things aren't working
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