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NOT12NOW:
Dear lord, how old is she?

Antigen:
I know a little about Teen Challenge. A lot of it does sound an awful lot like a Seed/Straight type program. But it's a lot more God based. And they do take adults under court order. I know of a guy probably in his late 30's who just did a turn through there around a year or so ago. Dunno if he'll be willing to talk about it or not, but I'm trying.

It has ever been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues

--Abraham Lincoln
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Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-11-29 18:13:00, NOT12NOW wrote:

"Dear lord, how old is she?"

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We met in AA when she was 22. She is now 27. We were engaged to be married for a time have never really stopped loving each other though I fear what her being in this program will mean for us I am trying to turn it over to Gods will. I know she needed help that AA wasn't providing and I want her to get that help. I just don't know if this is the path to what she is seeking. The sense of loss is overwhelming. Even when we have been apart she remained my very best friend. I am not allowed to have any contact with her and I don't know how long she will be gone. She did go into this voluntarily but that has been only a small comfort for me.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2005-11-29 19:05:00, Antigen wrote:

"I know a little about Teen Challenge. A lot of it does sound an awful lot like a Seed/Straight type program. But it's a lot more God based. And they do take adults under court order. I know of a guy probably in his late 30's who just did a turn through there around a year or so ago. Dunno if he'll be willing to talk about it or not, but I'm trying.


It has ever been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues

--Abraham Lincoln
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Thanks Ginger. I appreciate your help. I know she needed help. I honestly think she has Borderline Personally Disorder. At least she has every symptom which while it didn't diminish my feelings for her it made things very hard sometimes. Doesn't change how much I miss her. Has anybody here read "A Million Little Pieces" and "My friend Leornard" by James Frey? Great books on one mans recovery by the way. His description of his loss of Lili describes well the feelings I've been experiencing. I guess some good has come of it because I have started working on myself again and I needed to do that. Trust me on this.

Anonymous:

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Yes and I saw some of the changes so I do understand some of the strong feelings people have. Just out of curiosity does anybody here know if Teen Challenge is based on the same model that these other programs were?  "

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I called teen challenge several years ago and was told they have different locations that use different techniques, with some of the locations lock-down theraputic community based.

Ie:  yes they use similar techniques in at least some of the treatment centers.

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