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« on: January 05, 2005, 03:54:00 PM »
"The time I was there I didnt witness any bad things happening."

oh come on really now, how long were you there and you never saw a single wrong or bad thing happen? gimme a break dude.  :roll:

"I know that there are some girls that didnt like the school, and there are some that did."

and the reward for understatment of the year goes tooo..... NICO! Most people consider the things that happen at VCA child abuse.  :eek:
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2005, 06:26:00 PM »
:lol: Oh you're so cold, frigid and old
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2005, 06:54:00 PM »
Look, this argument happens again and again. Doesn't matter which program we're talking about or how overt some of the known abuses. There were people there in the same place at the same time wittnessing the same events but who perceived them very differently.

"Was there abuse" is just not a yes or no question. Even been to an ICU ward at a hospital? If you're ever unfortunate enough to have occasion to spend time in one, you'll see all kinds of painful and degrading proceedures performed by people who exist somehow at the high end of the stress range.

Is that abuse? Most people say no because we all understand these are needed, life saving procedures. And, when you're in a program, you're instructed and pressured in a thousand ways to view it like that.

Well, when I was in Straight, I only saw a little abuse. Why I happened to see it that way at that time had more to do with their accidentally letting me connect w/ the victim on a personal level prior to the event than anything else. But I didn't even wittness abuse when my point of view was from flat on my back on a very cold concrete floor under the weight of 5 or 6 other girls. Took me awhile to realize just how fucked up that was.

So have patience w/ each other. Talk about what you did see and experience. Never mind who thought what about it at the time. This is a public forum and one of the benefits to that is that we can tell our stories and let ordinary people who have not been subjected to the dogma weigh in on these events. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, that's really the whole point.

I was born a heretic. I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2005, 06:55:00 PM »
"Oh you're so cold, frigid and old"

I'm assuming you say that because you know me personally?

no, you don't.

shut up your face.

 :grin: [ This Message was edited by: letstalkaboutpants on 2005-01-05 15:56 ]
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2005, 01:06:00 AM »
I just meant to say hi and I made to new folders, oh well.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2005, 04:16:00 AM »
Nope, sorry didnt see any abuse.  I saw girls forced to work outside in the heat, do the dishes, write lines, paint sheds. (wow, thats horrible), but, unfortunately, some think that was abusive.  


Did I see bad things happen? Sure, but that is life.  I see bad things happen at work, in the mall, at school, everywere.  

   [ This Message was edited by: Nico on 2005-01-19 19:11 ]
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2005, 01:21:00 PM »
so you mean to tell me you never once saw anyone sat on by up to 6 people?

being a male staff member I don't find it all that hard to believe, come to think about it.

They kept the male staff member completely in the dark for the most part.

Most of the abuse went down in the dorms and of course you weren't allowed there.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2005, 01:55:00 PM »
lets talk about skirts and pumps  :silly:
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »
uhm, lets not.  ::puke::  ::puke::
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2005, 02:30:00 PM »
::boohoo:: For all the VCA whinners
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2005, 02:44:00 PM »
for all the palmer worshippers...

 :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:

so tell me what does it feel like to be a patsy?
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2005, 03:32:00 PM »
Do you mean winners of whiners?  You must mean winners, because a whiner would be someone who complains but does nothing about it.  We are actively working to shut down VCA and bring Palmer to justice, not just talking about it.  I wish there was an emotocon flipping the bird.  That would be really special.

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" ::boohoo:: For all the VCA whinners"
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2005, 03:35:00 PM »
winners OR whiners, I mean.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »
Lets see what the grunions are talking about on here tonight..anything interesting?? Did letstalkaboutpants finally push herself away from the pc??? Did she win tickets to Jerry Springer or no wait, shes probably more like one of the guests  :smile:
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2005, 11:57:00 AM »
:nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:

              patsy ass pussy.

say what you wanna say doesn't change the fact that you like to hide behind your little computer screen and type type type away and not say who you are because you're a scared little patsy aren't you?

so lets talk about something other than pants today, what are you so scared of patsy?
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