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Antigen:
Stripe,  :rofl: no, you're not the first one to try that. Telling, isn't it? Were you really surprised? I wonder if we should put together a sort of anthology of such pranks, something like the Toth Letters? Might be fun and profitable.

Marshall, I got hung on the same point about offering alternatives. I was debating whether to try and address that or to go w/ the flow of conversation. Since you did, let me add my thoughts. I can sum it up in one simple, snide remark; I'm not yo' mama! It's not my place or my responsibility to tell ya'll what you should do, should have done or to improve upon or try to perfect the Synanon method.

However, I have very often engaged in discussion in these forums about just exactly that. Whenever I go there, I try to always make it clear that I'm offering my opinion or speculation. I suppose I fail in that sometimes. But then, I think maybe ppl who remain involved in Program culture (to whatever degree) are simply deaf to the concept of personal responsibility. No matter. I'd rather discuss the alternatives w/ people who are willing and able to get past that and explore some new concepts that forever argue w/ those who are not.

I think the best alternative to the Program philosopy on raising kids is to reference the old school methods. W/ my kids, I try to do a lot of what my parents did right and to leave out what they did wrong and to pick up ideas from others.

Just love your kids, damn it! It may seem like a snide remark to you, but it's not. Have faith in them, especially when they screw up. Those are the times when they need your love and support the most. Once they get to the point of maturity where they reject your absolute authority and are compelled to test your beliefs and standards, it's worse than a waste of time to try and strong arm them back into being compliant, dependent little carbon coppies of what you wish you could live up to. If you take the bait and engage in all out warfare with them when they're feeling cockey, they won't trust you enough to come to you for advice and support when they want and need it. So don't do that. That's my advice.

Finally, anon, wtf do you mean I'm in denial? Denial of what? Who are you and what makes you think you know anything true about me, aside from what I've said myself? Are you kin to me? Cause I haven't talked to, far less spent time w/, any of my own family of origin in a number of years. I know they've got plenty to say about me, but they never have bothered to get to know me in real life. It's all just gossip.



It will be generally found that those who sneer habitually at human nature and affect to despise it, are among its worst and least pleasant examples

--Charles Dickens
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Anonymous:
"Finally, anon, wtf do you mean I'm in denial? Denial of what? Who are you and what makes you think you know anything true about me, aside from what I've said myself? Are you kin to me? Cause I haven't talked to, far less spent time w/, any of my own family of origin in a number of years. I know they've got plenty to say about me, but they never have bothered to get to know me in real life. It's all just gossip. " said, Antigen...

WTF are you Queen Fornits?  Are you the all knowing? Maybe your God? or think that you are. I think you should reread your post.  You told others that they were in denial.  Are you the only one allowed to call that shot?

You to me are the most vengeful abnoxious woman
I have ever come across.  Thats my opinion.
Sorry, try some estrogen  
 ::blushing::

Antigen:
Darlin, that comment of mine was in direct response to your very clear and repeated insinuation that there is nothing about The Seed that bears any resemblance to other well known brainwashing tactics. And you're far too clever to have missed the point.

Why are you always sniping at me like this? You'll even go out of your way answering questions I pose to other people just to take a shot at me. What did I ever do to you?
Locate the blind spot in the culture--the place where the culture isn't looking, because it dare not--because if it were to look there, its previous values would dissolve.
Terence McKenna
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Anonymous:
I Honestly wish I knew exactly why you annoy me so much.  I guess it's just like  
From my fathers imortal words,
"you give me the red ass"  :flame:  :grin:

Antigen:
Truth hurts?
I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religion than it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
--Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist
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