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« on: January 26, 2005, 11:57:00 PM »
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jh ... ID=7428799

By Charnicia E. Huggins
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Many people with alcohol dependence are able to recover completely, sometimes without formal treatment. Some may even be able to drink occasionally without relapsing, new study findings show.

"Evidence that low-risk drinking represents a recovery option for some individuals may prompt attempts to cut down on drinking among persons not ready to consider abstinence," study author Dr. Deborah A. Dawson, of the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism told Reuters Health.

"Cutting down can be good if it prevents or reduces harm."

Yet, the new findings do not imply that people with alcohol dependence need not seek treatment. "Even if some of these individuals might ultimately recover without treatment, treatment may speed their recovery," Dawson said.

Using data from the 2001- 2002 National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions, Dawson and her team analyzed survey responses from 4,422 adults with clinically identified alcohol dependence that began more than a year prior to the survey.

Only 26 percent of these adults had ever received treatment for their alcohol dependence. Still, nearly 36 percent of the study group were in full remission, meaning they either had not consumed any alcohol during the past year or had consumed alcohol but had no symptoms of abuse or dependence, the researchers report in the research journal Addiction.

An additional 12 percent could be classified as being in full remission, but they had drinking patterns that put them at risk of relapse. This included men who drank five or more drinks a day at least once in the past year, or women who drank an average of more than seven drinks per week.

Twenty-five percent of the study sample remained alcohol dependent and 27 percent were classified as being in partial remission. The latter were not technically dependent on alcohol, but had one or more symptoms of abuse or dependence, the researchers note.

Married adults were more likely to achieve either abstinence or non-abstinent recovery -- that is, drinking with no symptoms of alcohol abuse or dependence -- than were single adults.

The likelihood of abstinent recovery also increased with age, and was more common among women than among men.

In considering the long-term difference between those who choose to cut down on alcohol drinking and those who choose abstinence as a means of recovery, Dawson said, "We do not yet know from research which formerly alcohol-dependent persons are most likely to recover and which to fail."

Anyone who may be alcohol dependent "is best advised to consult a health care professional," she added.

Commenting on Dawson's findings, Dr. Mark Willenbring, head of the NIAAA's Division of Treatment and Recovery Research said, "This study merely points out something that we already suspected: that a significant portion of people with milder forms of the illness may be able to fully recover and even drink in a non-problem way."

"The safest thing for anyone to do is to examine their use, and to use (alcohol) within the recommended guidelines -- or to abstain if they are unable to remain in the limits," he told Reuters Health

SOURCE: Addiction, November 2004.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2005, 06:41:00 PM »
Treatment programs for anything other than medical treatment for actual physical symptoms of withdrawal are bullshit.  I know more about recovery from drug addiction than any Ph.D. or cheesy self-appointed sponsor.  I learned this firsthand from my own recovery, and in the recovery of others close to me or that I have known.  NA and AA, Synanon, any place that has any sort of "method" or "program" other than medical treatment for physical effects is just a scam to take your money, your freedom, your mind, or some combination thereof.  Drug testing and drug treatment are huge industries, and with the collusion and cooperation of insurance companies, are some of the major forces behind drug prohibition.  Government uses drug hysteria to set up police forces and intrude on civil liberties.  Drug use is considered drug abuse by definition, and legions of mental health professionals are utilized for the mindscrubbing of those that don't comply with government wishes---basically being guilty of "thoughtcrime", since the access to the state of mind they are seeking has been made illegal, and the desire to achieve these states of consciousness is deemed immoral, illegal, or insane.  Which begs the question, "If you don't have freedom of mind, then what freedom do you really have at all?"
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2005, 07:34:00 PM »
What people need to realize is that aa is a man made program formulated a long, long time ago. I tried aa for many years...

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2005, 11:09:00 PM »
Another reason to keep drinking.  You never know when a runaway avalanche will attack!!!  We have a real problem with that down here. :lol:

http://www.soundslikeprogress.com/index.php?p=33

Man Pees Way Out Of Avalanche
Filed under: General? Jay @ 11:47 pm This is a news story originally posted here?

A Slovak man trapped in his car under an avalanche freed himself by drinking 60 bottles of beer and urinating on the snow to melt it.

Rescue teams found Richard Kral drunk and staggering along a mountain path four days after his Audi car was buried in the Slovak Tatra mountains.

He told them that after the avalanche, he had opened his car window and tried to dig his way out.

But as he dug with his hands, he realised the snow would fill his car before he managed to break through.

He had 60 half-litre bottles of beer in his car as he was going on holiday, and after cracking one open to think about the problem he realised he could urinate on the snow to melt it, local media reported.

He said: ?I was scooping the snow from above me and packing it down below the window, and then I peed on it to melt it. It was hard and now my kidneys and liver hurt. But I?m glad the beer I took on holiday turned out to be useful and I managed to get out of there.?

Parts of Europe have this week been hit by the heaviest snowfalls since 1941, with some places registering more than ten feet of snow in 24 hours.

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2005, 12:33:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-27 15:41:00, RTP2003 wrote:

"Treatment programs for anything other than medical treatment for actual physical symptoms of withdrawal are bullshit.


Oh, thanks for reminding me! I had this "saved" in a chat window (sorry Kim) and meant to add it to the quote gizmo.

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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2005, 01:12:00 AM »
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On 2005-01-28 21:33:00, Antigen wrote:

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On 2005-01-27 15:41:00, RTP2003 wrote:


"Treatment programs for anything other than medical treatment for actual physical symptoms of withdrawal are bullshit.




Oh, thanks for reminding me! I had this "saved" in a chat window (sorry Kim) and meant to add it to the quote gizmo.



"If TCs were interested in treating substance abuse, half the time they'd tell mom "Sorry ma'am, we can't help him. He's not an addict, he's just an asshole."--GregFL



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BRAVO!!!! Can I steal that!?
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2005, 01:37:00 AM »
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BRAVO!!!! Can I steal that!?"


I don't see why not, seein as how I stole it from Greg.

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2005, 02:19:00 AM »
Use it, and use it well.    :grin:

actually there is a story about it that I was telling ginger. I met a guy the other day in Costa Rica that runs a TC chain in Texas and I had about a 2 hour run at him that left him bewildered and confused....

What fun!
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2005, 02:40:00 AM »
Sometimes, I wish I was a ex-seedling.  Wish I was having that kind of fun! :smile:

Thanx!
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2005, 02:53:00 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2005, 03:22:00 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2005, 03:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2005, 04:48:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-28 23:19:00, GregFL wrote:

"...actually there is a story about it that I was telling ginger. I met a guy the other day in Costa Rica that runs a TC chain in Texas and I had about a 2 hour run at him that left him bewildered and confused....



What fun!



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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
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On 2005-01-28 20:09:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:

"Another reason to keep drinking.  You never know when a runaway avalanche will attack!!!  We have a real problem with that down here. ::bwahaha::  ::hehehmm::

"The FARC is part of the history of Colombia and a historical phenomenon", (President Pastrana) says, "and they must be treated as Colombians". ... They come and ask for bread [aid from Washington], and you give them stones.

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