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Where are all the St Pete Seed peeps??

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JaLong:
Hello Robin,
I have found this sight from our mutual friend. I've been reading some of the posts from different parts, and does it bring back memories. There are still a lot of former "seed" adults living here in St.Pete. I still have the seed t-shirt, believe it or not. One thing I will say about the seed is, I did get off of the dope and drink, yet I had a lot of emotional issues after that. Especially fear. I remember as if it were yesterday, raising my hand to talk, but I always hid behind someone because I really didn't want to talk. Then there was a time an old boyfriend of mine came in just to get me out. He was being "full of sh**", and some girls started pointing to me that I knew him. Arthur made me stand up and "tell him where he was at." I told him, but whispered to him I didn't mean it.
School was another trip. I went to Bogie, and I remember saying " I can't talk to you, and I love you." I got kicked, punched, and things thrown at me everyday in classes and the hallways.
I know when the seed closed and Art ran with a lot of money, the Semblers asked even my parents if they wanted to help them start Straight.Thank God they declined. Rumor was that Art and his wife were confronted by some of the staff, whom he fired. Some parents who gave money also confronted him, and he ran. What would have happened to any of us if we tried to run??? I had a newcommer who tried to run one night as we were heading for the car, and I took off running after her, grabbed her long hair and threw here to the ground. I'd say that was battery today. I'm done for now. I am glad I found this site. I see some people still haven't gotten over their experience of the seed, and are very angry peeps. That time was way in the past. We can't chance the past, yet we can change today, and every day. Take care. J

JaLong:
Hey,
I remember Arthur very well. He hurt his leg in a car accident. I was in that clinic with him when he was on bedrest. I heard a long time ago that Arthur died. A guy I know was staff in 73 told me that. I really liked Arthur. I spent a lot of time with him in the clinic, after I came back from being home for a month when I had mono, the flu, and a kidney infection. Do you remember Mary Chapin? She to died in a severe car accident a few years back. Her memorial service was flowing with people outside the chapel, and very beautiful. It was so sad having to see the family, and give my condolences.
Later  :smile:

GregFL:
Welcome Jalong!

I was there with you and am happy you are here.

As far as Some people not being over their seed experience..a couple things.

First, some were way over it but are confronting issues they buried. It is not unusual, kind of like self therapy, when you revisit old baggage to feel some emotions...anger, pain, regret.  It doesn't mean these people have been living for 30 years in anger over this.

The anger will pass and with it usually comes more understanding. It is a positive process I believe.

Oters Jalong, believe it or not, were involved until recently. These people have immediate issues...very different than those of us 15 or 16 years old. These people stayed involved until they were 40!  

Since you are here, tell us something you remember about your time there.  For instance, were you there when we would get the protesters and we would have to go outside during exercise time in front of them and do the hokey-pokey...just for additional humiliation?

shellygillette:
I don't remember Shirley but I certainly remember Frieda.  I remember geting stood up, always by Arthur, and being freaking so scared he could "see: into my head.  It was during the gas shortage and when I was an oldcomer I would have to get up really early, like 5am, to get in line for gas, take my newcomers to the Seed (on the other side of town) and get to Lakewood on time.  I remember getting slammed into my lockers at school because I couldn't talk to my old friends and despartely wanting to hand them a note telling them to leave me alone until I got out of the program but not doing it because I was too scared of starting over.  I remember Frieda having a very hard time.  Arthur was all over my shit and seemed to pick on me relentlessly.  Glad you  guys are here.

JaLong:
Hello Greg,
I was in the seed in 73 for 10 1/2 months. My parents had one of those phoney court orders that judge was handing out like candy. I was considered a "buster", so I got a lot of "buster" newcomers. By the way, I am Julie B. Yes, I was married to Jeff B. I have already mentioned some of the seed kids who have died, but I forgot one very dear friend of mine, Steve Cason. Remember him? He died from a massive heart attack.
As far as the seed was concerned, yes, it saved my life. Almost all of my old friends who I hung with are dead, and who use to gather at the parking lot to the left yelling my name out. It got so bad staff made me stay inside during exercises. I didn't even know who Julie was before I went in there. I came out with a small amount of who I was, but I was so full of fear in there and when I got out, it was too overwhelming. I just stuffed it for years, and hung at the guys house. There I felt I could be myself, and also felt very loved. I hated the seed with a passion for years, yet once I grew up a little more I realized I was no longer a druggie, or a drunk. Now I definatly know who I am, and have for many years. I did have to go to counseling, and thank God she knew all about the seed and the way they tore us all down, and then built back up the same way. I walked around school, and outside like a darn robot, until I finally just stopped going to old timer meetings. Of course I was "screwing up" as far as others thought. But that's one part of me I never lost. I never cared what others thought about me. God and I knew what I was doing. I also never lost my faith and spirituality. I feel very happy with my life now. I have been through a lot in my life, yet I look at them as stepping stones. Each trial I go through makes me stronger and closer to my God. I found it funny that the seed had only 10 steps. The ones that were left out were all about finding a higher power, and living a spiritual life. Well I live my life that way now. I'll continue another time. Take care till then. Greg, remind me who you are OK? Thanks,Julie

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