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I Believe in Father Christmas
Anonymous:
Let's say there once lived a man. This man was a good man. Worked hard, paid his debts, took care of his family, was kind to animals and children, tried to make the world a better place when and where he could, owned up to his shortcomings and tried to correct them, apologized and made resitution to those he felt he had harmed along life's way, saw the simple beauty in life and nature. In general a good guy who lived a good life. If this good man lived this good life and tried to right wrongs be they his or those he saw but did NOT believe in a 'GOD' of any kind then what is to become of this good man in the eyes of religion? Because this good man believes in himself and his fellow humans and nature and the basics of right and wrong but does NOT subscribe to the belief in a supernatural being then this good man, in the eyes of pretty much every religion, is a sinner and not one of the 'chosen' people. That's just wrong any way you slice it.
BuzzKill:
What roller do you expect to answer your question?
Look anon atheists - its fine if you don't believe. Fine with me, I mean. I don't want to argue with you about it.
Why does it so aggravate you, that I and others do believe?
Why do you so often feel the need to quote the founding fathers and Samuel Clemmons and Einstein?
What they had to say can no more sway a Christian, than a Christian quoting Christ, can sway you.
Jefferson and Adams and numerous others, were not Christian; although they allowed the popular masses to believe they were. Common among the secrete societies. They were in fact, high order Masons; And so, they were Luciferians. You will get talk like that from Luciferians.
Being founding fathers of this nation; or otherwise famous persons; doesn't make them correct in all they think , say or do. In my opinion they were simply deluded by the desire for personal power.
I don't know what was up with Samuel Clemmons. I know I have read just as many quotes that indicate a belief and trust in an all powerful God as of his dismissing the idea. Maybe the man was a bit off his rocker. I don't know. Maybe he too, was a Mason.
Einstein came to believe in God. He even felt he had proven the existence of God. But as far as I know, he never really made an attempt to learn anything about the nature of God; or what God's will might be.
Me, I believe what I believe, as firmly as I do, because of Biblical Prophecy. For me, its existence, and absolute accuracy, prove God is; and Prove Jesus is who He says He is. I agree with Peter: Prophecy is like a lamp, shinning in a dark place.
I look at the times we are living in, the miraculous re-birth of the Nation; the re-birth of the Language; the blooming of the dessert; the victory of the people in the face of overwhelming odds; the gathering together of the nations against Jerusalem - So many things - and I see Prophecy happening right before our eyes.
Israel is a miracle. The birth of that nation is a perfect example of something that was considered absolutely impossible, being foretold by the prophets, and happening exactly as they said it would. God said it, and so it happened. The fact it was impossible being no hindrance to God at all.
I believe this will be the case with the many prophecies concerning the second coming. I believe it will be exactly as the Prophets said. The suffering Lamb prophecies all happen exactly as the Prophets told us they would; and the Conquering Lion is on the way - and will return in exactly the manner the prophets describe.
The existence of Israel is a major indicator the day is fast approaching.
Keep in mind, no such nation existed for two thousand years.
Remember, the Hebrew language was dead. No one, any were, spoke it - until the Nation was re-established. First time ever, in the history of the world, a dead language was revived and spoken by a people. First time ever, in the history of the world, a dispersed people retained their national identity. First time ever, in the history of the world, a destroyed and dispersed nation was re-gathered and re-established.
Learned men, reading the Prophecies 60 years ago, said No way they ment what they said. It wasn't possible. God was talking about the establishment of the church or some such thing. The learned men were wrong. God had said he would do all these things and He did them. He will do all the rest just as He said He would.
If you want a list of the related prophecies, just write and ask.
Now - if you don't want to believe any of this - I'm not wanting to try and force you to.
All I'm doing, is explaining some small part of why I believe it.
Quoting Occultist who disagree with me will make no dent in the armor of my faith.
Anonymous:
As I said before, I quoted those in response to someone saying that Mark Twain was schizo because he didn't believe. The reason for the quotes was to ask if they believed also that some of our founding fathers and some very prominent scientists were schizo as well.
Believe what you want to believe. If it helps you get through the day GREAT. We 'atheists' were responding to some of the holier-than-thou posts that have been written here. Why is it that you all can't have a civil, CRITICAL THOUGHT discussion? CRITICAL THOUGHT being the operative words here.
Tony Stark:
Blah,Blah Blah..........Why don't you qyote some of these people before they met their Death? "Last famous words" would be greatly appreciated. Leave BuzzKill alone. She's right about what she's saying and she saved my xmas. Just because you can't understand doesn't mean your fools, it just means you've never been tried by God and put to the test. God don't care if you don't believe in Him, He needs a joke every once in a while. After all He made everything in creation. Including mankind. :smokin:
The weavers of linen and hempen cloth, ... may exercise their trades without paying any fine.
-- Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations (chapter X, part II) notes:
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-12-03 14:00:00, Charlie Brown wrote:
"Blah,Blah Blah..........Why don't you qyote some of these people before they met their Death? "Last famous words" would be greatly appreciated.
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I really don't know how to respond to that because I have no idea what you mean.
--- Quote ---Leave BuzzKill alone. She's right about what she's saying and she saved my xmas.
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Don't have anything against her. I'm glad she saved your xmas.
--- Quote ---Just because you can't understand doesn't mean your fools, it just means you've never been tried by God and put to the test.
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I never said I didn't understand the Bible and it's teachings. I fully understand them, I just don't buy into it all. YOU can't handle that so you ASSUME that I don't understand or haven't been 'put to the test'. You have no idea about me or my life and whether or not I have been 'tested'. If we don't agree with you then we just don't understand. Just like if a kid "fails" at a program, it's not the fault of the program, it's that the kid wasn't honest enough or humble enough or WHATEVER enough.
I guess this really is pointless because your resonses are exactly what I was talking about (God said it, I believe it, that settles it). You can't possibly listen to critical thinking and reason of any kind with that kind of mentality. I'm not suggesting that you give up believing, that would be ludicrous, I'm just asking for you accept that I might understand all of what you're saying and still disagree with it. Can you do that? Accept it without the qualifiers? Because when you say the things you do "Just because you can't understand doesn't mean your fools, it just means you've never been tried by God and put to the test." you imply that if I would only be tested by God then I would see the light and realize that you've been right all along. That is, essentially, stating that you are absolutely right without question and I just don't get it yet.
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