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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2006, 02:40:28 PM »
just a bit of sarcasum  :o  ::ftard::
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« Reply #61 on: October 31, 2007, 12:43:04 PM »
does anyone else have anything to say before we move on?
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« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2007, 12:50:36 PM »
I'd like to share my beat sheet techniques with the rap.
And I'd like some staff to talk about their beastiality experiences.

That will have me moving at lifespeed and thus  ready for dorm time / smorgasborg / and smooshing.
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Re: raps and thinking errors
« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2007, 12:54:53 PM »
Quote from: ""sarah20xoxo""
Quote from: ""never""
i remember the raps we used to have over at browns. we had this idiot of a human being running the rap. he gave us this sheet of paper and on it were what they called.THINKING ERRORS. i will quate a few. POOR ME.he loved that one. ALL OR NOTHING,FALSE THINKING AND OTHERS I CANT REMEMBER. i went along with it giving people advice like a good CULT MEMBER. thinking i will get out sooner. I DIDNT


omg *runs to room brings out some papers that list the "thinking errors". we did those in "positive attitude journals" i still have afew most of my stuff was trashed.
there are like over a hundred of them heres some:
*Excuses  *Blaming  *Seeking sympathy   *justifying  *redefining
*pet me   *lying  *uniqueness  *making fools of  *assuming
 *fact stacking  *fronting   *minimizing  *vagueness  *anger
*secretiveness  *keeping score or get backs  *grandiosity or maximizing  *victim stance  *lets fight or splitting  *confusion  
*helpless  *you're okay, im okay  *my way or no way (all or nothing)
*hop overs  *"i cant" attitude  *mr. goodguy  *its mine or ownership and entitlement   *refusal to acknowledge fear  *hot shot or cockiness  *avoiding the hot iron  *slacking  *power play  *lack of empathy  *refusal to accept obligations and keep commitments  *silent power  
i hated that shit. they would tell us to fill out the paper it said "right now i am thinking......" and nomatter what we put it was a thinking error. and then we had to circle the thnking error and then fill out the rest of the paper "my alternative smart self talk is...." then "definition of primary thinking error....." and "the alternative to these thinking errors....."       but the staff they had no thinking errors :roll:
that was one of the groups we had to do.
everyday we had a group in the morning  talking about how we were feeling and we had to have new describing words. then we had to say our goal for the day. and for the week. and how we feel our "treatment is going" then they'd talk shit and point out afew things like how so and so needs to brush his teeth more. and "johnny is your diarrhea getting any better? did the medicine help?" morning group wasnt so bad. but then when it came to the raps shit in the day time ughghghghgh. AWFUL! and yes I had to make up stories too. and just talk to fill time so that i would be "furthering my treatment" and then everyone would suck up and give bullshit advice that was coming from their asses. And also try to "hold eachother accountable" snitching and lying.
     I hated hearing the gross stories and the really messed up ones. I was 13. It didnt help me to hear about how this chick next to me was in a cult and gross things they did. and how homeboy raped his little neighbor who was like 3 or something. and then he got mad when people would say thats wrong. or how good it felt to do this drug or that one. and alot of the stories i wondered if they were real or not. but you HAD to tell stories and give feedback. and it HAD to be meaningful to give u points on your card too.

whats fucked up is they expect you to open up to these people and tell them things about you then you cant even talk to them or its secretive behavior. but if you dont talk then you are being unsocial. and we had to sit in our rooms during shift change for afew hours doing nothing. we couldnt sit on our bed or they would say someting stupid to us. if we sat on the floor then most of the time they would say something dumb about it. if we tried to say communicate to someone in a nearby room then that was secretive behavior. man too much stuff i remember.

good post sarah, are you still viewing this forum?
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raps. stop the madness. please
« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2007, 01:39:11 PM »
In my opinion, these places could not function without the "group sessions", raps, and encounters that make them "therapuk-it".
Get a law passed that outlines how shaming and group shaming works, demands certified state board certif.... you know what fuck it. FUCK it. someone sell me a gun, I just can't take it anymore. RAPS cannot still exist. If they do, it's a crime.
Where is a program vigilante when you need 'em? When I can, I will post more intelligently about raps. satanic raps.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
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                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2007, 01:01:03 PM »
would anyone else be interested in writing a rap. the way one may have gone from beginint to end?
i think is a good idea. like tevle or thirteen fuckers yelling and cying the dum dum staff tying to keep the shit intense.
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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2007, 01:06:09 PM »
yes
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« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2007, 10:07:26 PM »
I was a stupid, skinny, 14 year kid. I thought I knew everything when I really didn't know shit.... just like any other normal teenager!

amen to that....

i think the sad thing is that:  i have a rap going on in my head all the time now, and all the voices are mine, and all the needs are mine, and all the dreams and hopes and desires and joys are mine, and all are being torn down by my own voice all the time.

thank god for you guys to help me through this.  i am so glad this board exists.

i beleive in our ability to heal.  i beleive that the power behind cedu remain the power of faith and trust, but they fed their minds with lies, or they were wrong, but

here's the thing i have been thinking about.

cults are culture.  america is a cult, just like cedu, with a random manipulative hateful center, and many duped people dependant on the center for survival, all too wounded and stupid to even realize what is going on, self perpatuating.

but to vow never to do that, is to vow never to try to create any kind of community, because i think the reason cedu effected us all so much is because we trusted it.  so i have to be careful not to vow never to trust again.  because after something like that, it seems like maybe it would be a good idea!  to never trust again, but i beleive in my ability to heal and trust.  

fuck man.  this is the most terrifying thing i have ever done.  to not be in denial about this all the time.  we really have to do something.  all of us together, to tell people, to warn people.  i really feel this way.
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« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2007, 10:58:09 PM »
you are right to.
welcome sister.
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2007, 04:09:08 AM »
thank you :)


i want to write a rap. i wrote a bit of my first one.  it was hard.  i want to though.  communicaiton is hard.  thats all i'm sayin.  its just hard.
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Re: "Ok, Well I'll start"
« Reply #70 on: November 06, 2007, 10:45:04 AM »
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Carolyn started that rap fucking with everybody, in particular a couple of boys who weren't allowed to talk to me. Sitting there staring at the fan, I was trying to avoid the world inside this circle, imagining that I was back in Virginia puffing on a joint behind my neighbors fence with a friend from home. Carolyn startled me.
     "Hey, new guy!"
    She had this uncanny ability to smile and raise her voice by 75 decibels at the same time. My periphery twinkled into focus. I was pinned to my black chair. I didn't know what was what now but my mind raced around inside itself until it landed me back in the chair. Something from the first rap with Tessa two days before settled in my brain. When a person had switched chairs with me to yell at a guy he dormed with, I noticed that the boxier black chairs were much more comfortable than the ones with rounded frames and feet. I felt a humble consolation in the realization at the beginning of this particular rap that I had scored a more comfortable seat. My ass was molded to it now and the July sun outside was sending a searing light into the center of the circle. The blood ran to my face, the eyes shift in unison to me. I kept my eyes on the fan. It was like being woken up abruptly, the feeling disjointed. I couldn't yet think of looking at her.
    "You can't ask a girl in the woods to run away with you, Ok?" You're new so I'll just tell you there is no running away, no fucking the girls, GOT IT?
    "Okay." I gulped.
    I was still an obvious foreigner. The customs were upside down. I couldn't think of anyone I knew at home that would let someone talk that way to them.



--just some of the teaser. Enjoy.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
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                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #71 on: November 06, 2007, 10:57:02 AM »
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« Reply #72 on: November 08, 2007, 07:31:32 PM »
Carolyn thankfully moved on with a warning me that she was close to putting me on "bans" already. Yes Ma'am, I had said. "bans" were explained to me after that rap by Charles. When you were on bans with someone you were not allowed to talk to them. You could not communicate with them in any way at all. No brushing by that person- go to the other side of the room or hallway if you see someone you are on bans with approaching. There was to be no sitting down in the same vicinity, including meal times.
    My first rap had been in Walden West two days before. Tessa Wateratt was the "facilitator". I can't remember who was supporting facilitator in that rap because the whole thing was so apocalyptic, anything besides it's own happening would be unmemorable by comparison. I didn't know what I was in store for as I was escorted from the house by Ken, who steered me down a path with a rock border, and past a few other buildings. We came to Walden and were directed into the room. This room has so much significance for me that just crossing its threshold in my imagination causes unspeakable feelings. All of my propheets and workshops were in Walden and it is fitting that my first step into behavior modification happened in that room.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2007, 01:39:56 PM »
My first rap had been in Walden West two days before. Tessa Wateratt was the "facilitator". I can't remember who was supporting facilitator in that rap because the whole thing was so apocalyptic, anything besides it's own happening would be unmemorable by comparison. I didn't know what I was in store for as I was escorted from the house by Ken, who steered me down a path with a rock border, and past a few other buildings. We came to Walden and were directed into the room. This room has so much significance for me that just crossing its threshold in my imagination causes unspeakable feelings. All of my propheets and workshops were in Walden and it is fitting that my first step into behavior modification happened in that room.
    There was a circle of black chairs interrupted by one upholstered blue one with arm rests. Nobody went near that one. I sat down and listened to my heart throb in my ears. I didn't know what to be nervous about, but after numerous kids asked me during lunch if this was my first rap and then their replies of "holy shit, who's running it?" or "Ha Ha, won't that be nice!" I started to become a little nervous on the walk over with Ken. There were many other people moving to their assigned rooms and it was quiet, a definite sense of foreboding pervaded. I didn't know how to identify it yet- something that I got a strong whiff of as we sat down in our black chairs that afternoon in Walden West: fear.
    Tessa sat down in the upholstered chair next to Ken, two down from me. The room went completely silent. She said to the group that this was my first rap and would someone please inform me of the agreements. A boy with terrible acne (not as bad as the acne I was soon to get) quickly chimed the first "agreement":
    "What is said in a rap stays in a rap."
Ok. I don't think I'm getting this. What's a rap? Tessa thankfully translated:
    "XXXX, a lot of people are going to be sharing things about themselves that are very private. When one says something in a rap we discuss it in raps but to keep the environment "healthy" we don't need to bring it up in conversation outside of the raps up in the house or down at the wood corral. Raps are safe and one of the most important ways we ensure this safety, is with that agreement."
    Her translation helped some, but the overall feeling inside the room was that it had been flooded with childhood nightmares made real. I looked around the room at a girl I thought pretty, she shared the next agreement.
    "Don't say anything people can't change." A very timid voice.
    At Tessa's request the girl continued to explain that commenting on physical appearances was ok- like if someone seemed sloppy, comments about that would be acceptable, whereas comments about the size of ones nose or comments about race were discouraged.  I was asked if I understood this, and still being as diplomatic as my second day status allowed me, I commented that I understood the need for this "specification" in it's entirety and thought that the agreement made good sense. I received a quixotic glance from several for this. I stored the faces for good measure because I didn't know what this place was all about yet.
    There was a little pause as the next regulation was supposed to be inserted into the conversation, instead the person next to me on my left stood quietly up and switched chairs with a person on the opposite side of the circle. The person who was now sitting to my left was getting settled and the person who had moved across the circle spoke to me.    
    "We get up and move when we want to indict somebody, that way we won't be spitting in their faces."
     I had already noticed this kid. He had a little leather holster on his hip for his cigarettes and a lighter. His shirt was tucked in so deeply that it pulled his shoulders forward. He was about as thin as a cane and crooked over a bit like he might need one. Roan looked like a warped board, or driftwood, I was thinking.
    Tessa made me knowledgeable about the significance of this posturing and business of switching chairs by "pretending" to scream at Ken. I jumped about three feet out of my seat. It was totally unexpected, she yelled FUCK YOU at the top of her lungs about four feet from my cochlea. I hated getting yelled at at home. There had been so many screaming matches with my mother and father. I rarely placed better than third in these verbal vocal struggles, and the displays of disappointment and anger always reduced me to either tears, fight, or flight. I suddenly felt like that again. The points had been taken: move across the room, tuck in your shirt, don't talk about The Doors, don't hit or punch, or carve on yourself, chew gum, call the agreements rules, run away, talk back, or complain. I was starting to understand real good…this was a joke? An elaborate act…ok, I'll bite, what's in the next act.
    Tessa fidgeted with a piece of paper in her hand purposefully. Wildly, she then fidgeted with her watch and shoelaces. I sensed her actual excitement as  she quickly went through the next two agreements.
    "No rap toys"
    Ken explained the recent display by Tessa. There were to be no distractions from the work we would be doing, and that there were to be five feet on the floor at all times. An opposite of Carolyn Volch, who could be seen coming at you from 200 meters, and easily identified by blonde hair and the direct,  sheer, predatory manner of her stride, Tessa Wateratt walked with a bounce and reminded me of a brunette mop, one that had a slinky for a handle. Demonstrations were made of what it meant to have five "feet" on the floor. Tessa tried to push her chair back on two legs but she just didn't have enough bulk. Essentially, there was to be no tipping of the chair and you were not supposed to curl up into it either. I learned over time that this agreement could be invoked at any time but was largely ignored. It was another good indicator of how a staff felt about you if you got "pulled up" for hiding in your chair. By the same standard, it would be pretty "needsy" if an older student pulled you up for it. Those black chairs endured so much through their years I wonder if telling the story from their point of view could be any easier.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2007, 04:04:04 AM »
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I had already noticed this kid. He had a little leather holster on his hip for his cigarettes and a lighter. His shirt was tucked in so deeply that it pulled his shoulders forward. He was about as thin as a cane and crooked over a bit like he might need one. Roan looked like a warped board, or driftwood, I was thinking.


Okay, I am dying to know who this is. PM me. I so totally don't remember anyone with a leather cig holster.

Stacy and I have the same walk. heh. Not by choice. I've always walked like this. Although when I went up to a meaty 200 it evolved into a lope instead of a bounce, but now that I am back at 150, the bounce is back.
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